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Brian W.
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Topic: Helen Reddy "Angie Baby"Posted: 03 October 2023 at 10:12am |
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The opening is a little hissy, so I think that's why the fade-in was done on her "Greatest Hits and More" comp in the 1980s, which was the very first Helen Reddy CD, and subsequent comps just used that same digital master. |
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Posted: 03 October 2023 at 9:44am |
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A member of the Fleetwoods that I've known for years mentioned long ago her unhappiness with these remixes since they push Gary Troxel out front and treat the women as background singers, whereas on the originals they're more or less evenly mixed. |
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Posted: 03 October 2023 at 6:26am |
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To CountryPD:
You make great points!! I forgot to mention in my post that the 'Capitol Collectors Series' are great PROVIDED THE ORIGINAL MIXES REMAIN READILY AVAILABLE. Although I like some remixes, I hate it when they become the de facto standard. Andy |
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Posted: 03 October 2023 at 5:27am |
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If you like revisionist history and enjoy "alternate versions" of hits then those ADD versions fill the bill. But if you want songs that SOUND like the ORIGINAL VERSION from back in the day they missed it by a mile. At the time those were issued the correct mixes of many of the songs were not available elsewhere on CD which made them even more disappointing to those who purchased them expecting to hear the original versions. If I was programming an oldies radio station I would NEVER use those ADD remixes. Edited by CountryPD |
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Posted: 03 October 2023 at 5:19am |
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I'm primarily referring to the country artists in the Capitol
Collectors Series. However one of my friends is a serious pop music collector and told me that pop artists in that series have similar issues. To be specific the MONO & AAD STEREO versions are generally OK. The problem is the ADD remixes. Clearly they did not use the original analog stereo versions as a guideline so the new ADD remixes they created sound very different. The Liberty Legendary Masters series suffers from the same issues with ADD remixes. Unfortunately for many years those ADD remixes were licensed to other companies requesting those tracks. The ADD Capitol remixes of Merle Haggard & Sonny James hits were used for the 1966 & 1967 volumes of the Time/Life Country USA series. Swinging Doors on the 1966 volume is actually an alternate take rather than the hit version. There are other issues with several volumes in that Time/Life series but those would belong in a separate thread. The ADD remixes for Merle & Sonny were also used for Razor & Tie hit compilations and the Merle Haggard volume of the Capitol "Ten Best Greatest Hits" series among others. |
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Posted: 03 October 2023 at 5:01am |
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Actually, they're great to have! Ron Furmanek did an amazing job on them. When he had multi-tracks he remixed them for *optimum sound quality*, not necessarily accuracy to to the original 45 or LP mix (as they oftentimes had longer fades or studio countoffs). The cuts that were only available in original mono (or two-track stereo mixdown) were among the best transfers available at the time of its release. Andy |
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Posted: 02 October 2023 at 10:11am |
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Hmmm, I've been eyeballing a set of those Capitol Collector's Series discs. I'm guessing I ought not pick them up? Also, which Time/Life Country series are you referring to? I have a number of those on the shelf. |
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Posted: 01 October 2023 at 4:26pm |
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Sometimes all it takes is one negligent or inattentive mastering
engineer and a less than perfect transfer becomes the new digital master. Could be that someone was asleep at the switch in the mastering studio. Or maybe they were working with an analog master tape that had some type of defect at the beginning of the song and tried to work around it rather than requesting a better copy. I've heard songs that had the first note clipped or fade endings that were cut off too soon that were then issued that same way on multiple other CD's. For years the incorrect ADD remixes created for the Capitol Collectors Series were used on other compilations including a major Time/Life country series. |
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Pat has updated the database regarding this song. Thanks,
Pat! |
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Posted: 29 September 2023 at 12:49pm |
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Just to make it more suspenseful... The version on the LP has a tiny bit
more audio in the very beginning of the intro versus the one on the "definitive" cd... |
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