https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Fri, 03 Apr 2026 18:36:59 +0000 Tue, 03 Oct 2023 10:12:12 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=9998 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9998&PID=63748&title=helen-reddy-angie-baby#63748 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 9998
Posted: 03 October 2023 at 10:12am

thecdguy wrote: I'm curious as to why a fade-in was even done in the first place and how it found its way onto a few of her hits comps.

The opening is a little hissy, so I think that's why the fade-in was done on her "Greatest Hits and More" comp in the 1980s, which was the very first Helen Reddy CD, and subsequent comps
just used that same digital master.
]]> Tue, 03 Oct 2023 10:12:12 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9998&PID=63748&title=helen-reddy-angie-baby#63748 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9998&PID=63747&title=helen-reddy-angie-baby#63747 Author: vanmeter
Subject: 9998
Posted: 03 October 2023 at 9:44am

CountryPD wrote: The Liberty Legendary Masters series suffers from the same issues with ADD remixes.

A member of the Fleetwoods that I've known for years mentioned long ago her unhappiness with these remixes since they push Gary Troxel out front and treat the women as background singers, whereas on the originals they're more or less evenly mixed. ]]> Tue, 03 Oct 2023 09:44:14 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9998&PID=63747&title=helen-reddy-angie-baby#63747 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9998&PID=63746&title=helen-reddy-angie-baby#63746 Author: AndrewChouffi
Subject: 9998
Posted: 03 October 2023 at 6:26am

To CountryPD:

You make great points!!

I forgot to mention in my post that the 'Capitol Collectors
Series' are great PROVIDED THE ORIGINAL MIXES REMAIN
READILY AVAILABLE.

Although I like some remixes, I hate it when they become
the de facto standard.

Andy]]> Tue, 03 Oct 2023 06:26:33 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9998&PID=63746&title=helen-reddy-angie-baby#63746 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9998&PID=63744&title=helen-reddy-angie-baby#63744 Author: CountryPD
Subject: 9998
Posted: 03 October 2023 at 5:27am

AndrewChouffi wrote: AdvprosD wrote: Hmmm, I've been eyeballing a set of those Capitol Collector's Series discs. I'm guessing I ought not pick them up? Actually, they're great to have! Ron Furmanek did an amazing job on them. When he had multi-tracks he remixed them for *optimum sound quality*, not necessarily accuracy to to the original 45 or LP mix (as they oftentimes had longer fades or studio countoffs). The cuts that were only available in original mono (or two-track stereo mixdown) were among the best transfers available at the time of its release. Andy

If you like revisionist history and enjoy "alternate versions" of
hits then those ADD versions fill the bill. But if you want songs
that SOUND like the ORIGINAL VERSION from back in the day
they missed it by a mile. At the time those were issued the
correct mixes of many of the songs were not available
elsewhere on CD which made them even more disappointing to
those who purchased them expecting to hear the original
versions.

If I was programming an oldies radio station I would NEVER
use those ADD remixes.

Edited by CountryPD]]> Tue, 03 Oct 2023 05:27:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9998&PID=63744&title=helen-reddy-angie-baby#63744 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9998&PID=63743&title=helen-reddy-angie-baby#63743 Author: CountryPD
Subject: 9998
Posted: 03 October 2023 at 5:19am

I'm primarily referring to the country artists in the Capitol
Collectors Series. However one of my friends is a serious pop
music collector and told me that pop artists in that series have
similar issues.

To be specific the MONO & AAD STEREO versions
are generally OK. The problem is the ADD remixes.
Clearly they did not use the original analog stereo versions as a
guideline so the new ADD remixes they created sound very
different.

The Liberty Legendary Masters series suffers from the same
issues with ADD remixes.

Unfortunately for many years those ADD remixes were licensed
to other companies requesting those tracks. The ADD Capitol
remixes of Merle Haggard & Sonny James hits were used for
the 1966 & 1967 volumes of the Time/Life Country USA series.
Swinging Doors on the 1966 volume is actually an alternate take
rather than the hit version. There are other issues with several
volumes in that Time/Life series but those would belong in a
separate thread.

The ADD remixes for Merle & Sonny were also used for Razor &
Tie hit compilations and the Merle Haggard volume of the
Capitol "Ten Best Greatest Hits" series among others.]]> Tue, 03 Oct 2023 05:19:18 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9998&PID=63743&title=helen-reddy-angie-baby#63743 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9998&PID=63742&title=helen-reddy-angie-baby#63742 Author: AndrewChouffi
Subject: 9998
Posted: 03 October 2023 at 5:01am

AdvprosD wrote: Hmmm, I've been eyeballing a set of those Capitol Collector's Series discs. I'm guessing I ought not pick them up?

Actually, they're great to have!

Ron Furmanek did an amazing job on them.

When he had multi-tracks he remixed them for *optimum
sound quality*, not necessarily accuracy to to the
original 45 or LP mix (as they oftentimes had longer
fades or studio countoffs).

The cuts that were only available in original mono (or
two-track stereo mixdown) were among the best transfers
available at the time of its release.

Andy]]> Tue, 03 Oct 2023 05:01:08 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9998&PID=63742&title=helen-reddy-angie-baby#63742 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9998&PID=63740&title=helen-reddy-angie-baby#63740 Author: AdvprosD
Subject: 9998
Posted: 02 October 2023 at 10:11am

CountryPD wrote: For years the incorrect ADD remixes created for the Capitol Collectors Series were used on other compilations including a major Time/Life country series.

Hmmm, I've been eyeballing a set of those Capitol Collector's Series discs. I'm guessing I ought not pick them up?

Also, which Time/Life Country series are you referring to? I have a number of those on the shelf.]]> Mon, 02 Oct 2023 10:11:54 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9998&PID=63740&title=helen-reddy-angie-baby#63740 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9998&PID=63731&title=helen-reddy-angie-baby#63731 Author: CountryPD
Subject: 9998
Posted: 01 October 2023 at 4:26pm

Sometimes all it takes is one negligent or inattentive mastering
engineer and a less than perfect transfer becomes the new
digital master. Could be that someone was asleep at the switch
in the mastering studio. Or maybe they were working with an
analog master tape that had some type of defect at the
beginning of the song and tried to work around it rather than
requesting a better copy.

I've heard songs that had the first note clipped or fade endings
that were cut off too soon that were then issued that same way
on multiple other CD's. For years the incorrect ADD
remixes created for the Capitol Collectors Series were used on
other compilations including a major Time/Life country series. ]]> Sun, 01 Oct 2023 16:26:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9998&PID=63731&title=helen-reddy-angie-baby#63731 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9998&PID=63730&title=helen-reddy-angie-baby#63730 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 9998
Posted: 01 October 2023 at 3:07pm

Pat has updated the database regarding this song. Thanks,
Pat!]]> Sun, 01 Oct 2023 15:07:25 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9998&PID=63730&title=helen-reddy-angie-baby#63730 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9998&PID=63708&title=helen-reddy-angie-baby#63708 Author: Michaeldila
Subject: 9998
Posted: 29 September 2023 at 12:49pm

Just to make it more suspenseful... The version on the LP has a tiny bit
more audio in the very beginning of the intro versus the one on the
"definitive" cd...]]> Fri, 29 Sep 2023 12:49:07 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9998&PID=63708&title=helen-reddy-angie-baby#63708