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    Posted: 17 August 2013 at 1:51am
I have an edit of Janet Jackson's "Go Deep" on my Promo Only Mainstream Radio DJ CD subscription series running 3:30. Upon further research, I did locate an official promo CD single release on Virgin DPRO-13165 with the following tracks and reported run times:

1) Jam & Lewis Radio Edit - 3:30
2) Album Version - 4:54      
3) Jam & Lewis Extended Mix - 5:35      
4) Masters At Work Downtempo Mix - 5:19      
5) Masters At Work Radio Edit - 3:43

(There is a Track 6 consisting of a :17 "call-out hook" designed to get the attention of radio station music directors.)

Does anyone have a copy of this or any other promo single who can confirm the timing info? Also, does anyone recall hearing (or playing) Tracks 3-5 on their local Top 40 radio stations?
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Todd, here are the details of both of my promos for "Go Deep":

DPRO-13165
1. Jam & Lewis Radio Edit (listed & actual 3:30)
2. Album Version (listed & actual 4:54)
3. Jam & Lewis Extended Mix (listed 5:35; actual 5:32)
4. Masters At Work Downtempo Mix (listed 5:19; actual 5:16)
5. Masters At Work Radio Edit (listed 3:43; actual 3:44)
6. Call Out Hook - Jam & Lewis Radio Edit (0:17)

DPRO-13172
1. Missy Edit (listed & actual 4:03)
2. Timbaland/Missy Remix (listed 5:33; actual 5:32)
3. Teddy Riley Nation Remix - Clean Version (listed 5:43; actual 5:45)
4. T.R. Funk Mix (listed 5:39; actual 5:38)
5. Call Out Hook - Missy Edit (:17)
6. Call Out Hook - Teddy Riley Nation Remix (:17)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote edtop40 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 August 2013 at 4:48pm
this one is odd....both of my top 40 books indicate that
there was NOT a commercially released cassingle for the
song 'go deep' by janet jackson, because both books state
the label and catalog number as 'album cut', BUT...i do
own a usa commercial cassingle issued as virgin 38644
with the below tracks on it...

side 1
1-go deep (jam & lewis radio edit) (3:31 listed; 3:30
actual)
2-go deep (timbaland/missy remix) (featuring missy
'misdemeanor' elliott) (5:33 listed)

side 2
1-go deep (teddy riley nation remix-clean version) (5;43
listed)
2-go deep (masters at work radio edit) (3:43 listed)

if anyone needs the actuals it will take a little time to
run them through.....but please ask if you want them....
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That's VERY interesting, Ed! According to my research, that cassette single was released on August 25, 1998. I'm surprised that Billboard didn't put it on the Hot 100 as it was right in the middle of its airplay chart run at the time. They must not have known about it at the time...I certainly didn't know about it until now!

Ed, if you can e-mail me a scan of your single it'd be much appreciated!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hykker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 August 2013 at 6:28am
Originally posted by Paul Haney Paul Haney wrote:

I'm surprised that Billboard didn't
put it on the Hot 100 as it was right in the middle of
its
airplay chart run at the time. They must not have known
about it at the time...I certainly didn't know about it
until now!


I can't imagine Billboard being unaware of a commercial
single's release, especially one by a well-established
artist such a JJ...maybe there was some criteria that
this
didn't meet?
Certainly, if I were her manager I'd be right on top of
something like that!



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Originally posted by edtop40 edtop40 wrote:

this one is odd....both of my top 40 books indicate that
there was NOT a commercially released cassingle for the
song 'go deep' by janet jackson, because both books state
the label and catalog number as 'album cut', BUT...i do
own a usa commercial cassingle issued as virgin 38644
with the below tracks on it...

side 1
1-go deep (jam & lewis radio edit) (3:31 listed; 3:30
actual)
2-go deep (timbaland/missy remix) (featuring missy
'misdemeanor' elliott) (5:33 listed)

side 2
1-go deep (teddy riley nation remix-clean version) (5;43
listed)
2-go deep (masters at work radio edit) (3:43 listed)

if anyone needs the actuals it will take a little time to
run them through.....but please ask if you want them....

WOW. I was not aware of a commercial single release for this, either. I have the import CD single, but I didn't know there was a commercial US release. Ed, the things you dig up, you never cease to amaze me.
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Hey, it's listed on this Janet Jackson website, next release from the bottom. It says it was a pulled release and that Virgin canceled the single.

http://www.cravingjanet.com/discography/godeep.htm
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That website says it was pulled off the shelves shortly after release.

That would explain both how Ed got one and why Billboard didn't chart it.

Looks like you've got a rarity there, Ed!
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The Go Deep Cassingle was a free giveaway with purchase at Disc Jockey/FYE when Virgin cancelled the release after they saw Top 40 wasn't warming up to it enough to guarantee the continuation of Janet's Top 10 Hot 100 streak. Sony did the same thing around the same time with the Mariah Carey/Jermaine Dupri collaboration "Sweetheart" after they ran into the same radio roadblock and used the CD singles they printed up as freebies when you made a presale of the "#1's" Greatest Hits set.

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I remember something similar occurring in 1998 with the Backstreet Boys' "I'll Never Break Your Heart". During that fall, the song had climbed into the Top 10 on the airplay chart but wasn't eligible to appear on the Billboard Hot 100 at the time due to its unavailability as a commercial single release. However, I was visiting a local Wal-Mart one night and, lo and behold, the bins were stocked with about a dozen or so copies of "Heart" on commercial CD and cassette single.

I can't recall offhand the name of the Billboard Hot 100 director at the time, but I e-mailed her wanting to know why the song wasn't on the chart after having just seen commercial single copies at Wal-Mart. She replied that the Jive label had officially cancelled the single release at the last minute and that a few copies may have inadvertently leaked out to retail outlets. Regrettably, I never picked up one of these supposedly rare single copies, though I have no idea how valuable one would be considered today. (Incidentally, Billboard ended up making its historic rule change months later to start allowing songs to chart on the Hot 100 without a commercial single release. "Heart" was winding down its airplay run by that time though and thus only managed to sneak onto the Top 40 for one week at #35.)

Now, in rare instances where a song like "I'll Never Break Your Heart" and Janet Jackson's "Go Deep" get their commercial single releases cancelled, should the database mention run time info for the few unintentionally leaked copies? If so, I'm of the opinion there should be some sort of notation stating that these copies are rare.

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