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    Posted: 25 October 2011 at 10:28am
the sole two database entries for this track are indicated as being from vinyl
but they differ by :04. Anyone have the Plantation 45 to time it?
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David, I have three mono 45 copies of this; two are 1969 pressings on Plantation and one is a '70s reissue on Shelby Singleton's SSS International label. All three were pressed at Columbia's Terre Haute plant. (I don't have a copy of the original, pre-Plantation issue on Impel.)

The two Plantations are identical in every way, with an actual time of (2:08.5)

The SSS International reissue runs exactly (2:09). A very slightly slower speed accounts for the half-second longer playing time.

There are two interesting differences between the Plantation and SSS Int'l. 45s:

1. The volume and high frequency levels drop very noticeably on the Plantation 45 between the :10 and :18 marks. The SSS International 45 does not exhibit this "dropout" at all.

2. Between the two 45s, "Groovy Grubworm" was upgraded from "instrumental" to "vocal" status. Woo, hoo! :)
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Originally posted by Yah Shure Yah Shure wrote:


2. Between the two 45s, "Groovy Grubworm" was upgraded from "instrumental" to "vocal" status. Woo, hoo! :)


This has to be one of the more lyrically profound songs of the year, if not decade. "I'm a grubworm" indeed!
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thanks for the info, Yah Shure. My CD copy sounds like it's from a tape,
from k-Tel "Silly Songs" also runs slow and contains that drop-out (although
both are easy to fix).
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Originally posted by Hykker Hykker wrote:

Originally posted by Yah Shure Yah Shure wrote:


2. Between the two 45s, "Groovy Grubworm" was upgraded from "instrumental" to "vocal" status. Woo, hoo! :)


This has to be one of the more lyrically profound songs of the year, if not decade. "I'm a grubworm" indeed!


So true! I can just picture the "instrumental vs. vocal" debate raging within the Singleton organization. :) Then again, since the composition was co-written, perhaps those three profound words meant a fatter wallet for one of the two guilty parties.
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I picked up a copy of the Impel label pressing of the song (where it started out as a B side) and it has a label time of 2:08 and an actual runtime of exactly 2:09. There is no change in volume or high fequency levels between :10 and :18 so it makes me wonder if the SSS International pressing might have been pressed using the Impel label's stampers.

The Impel 45 also credits only Harlow Wilcox as the artist (no Oakies).

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Originally posted by TomDiehl1 TomDiehl1 wrote:

...it makes me wonder if the SSS International pressing might have been pressed using the Impel label's stampers.


Tom, I'm inclined to believe that the levels glitch was due to a problem during the mastering process for the Plantation 45 and that the Singleton organization opted to fix the problem with a re-cut for the SSS International reissue, which had a different B-side ("Golden Guitar Flower") than the Plantation 45's "Moose Trot."

Here's the SSS International reissue's deadwax info: GTS 401 711-610    ZTSB 130866-1A     TIII (the latter signifying a Columbia Terre Haute pressing.)       

No Oakies on the Impel original? The plot thickens... :)
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Groovy Grubworm is the B side of the Impel release, the A side being Sad Is The Lonely.


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Tom, thanks for providing the label scan. The deadwax area is much wider on your Impel single than it is on either the Plantation 45 or the SSS International reissue, which means it is not from the same stamper. Bonus points for being pressed on vinyl!

Also note the different publisher (Little River Pub. Co. vs. Shelby Singleton Music.) As was often the case in the '60s, the bigger label acquiring the master also wanted the publishing rights, which were potentially more lucrative than the recording itself.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Paul C Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 November 2011 at 9:23am
Since the only CD appearances of this song in the database master it from vinyl, another scenario to consider is that the Plantation 45 may have been mastered from an Impel 45.


Curiously, this was a #1 country record in Canada:

It only reached #42 on the Billboard U.S. country chart.

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