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JMD1961 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 March 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13 |
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I was doing a search for Tom Johnston on iTunes this evening, looking for Savannah Nights. I found it with no problem. However, what really caught my eye was several items listed under the "Listeners Also Bought" links. There were several artists there that have tracks that, according to the DB, aren't available. I did a quick search and found several more. Here's a list:
Jim Photoglo - Fool In Love With You Tane Cain - Holding On Stevie Woods - Steal The Night Stevie Woods - Just Can't Win 'Em All Robbie Patton - Don't Give It Up Greg Guidry - Goin' Down Eddie Schwartz - All Our Tomorrows Pink Lady - Kiss In The Dark (not in database, but Top 40 in Billboard) Wayne Newton - Years Cliff Richard - Give A Little Bit More Mac McAnally - Minimum Love Pia Zadora - Clapping Song My question. Are these imports, online exclusives, or actual releases? I figure they are probably needle drops, but can't be sure. Has anyone checked them out? |
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eriejwg ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 73 |
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I guess another question is are these 45 or LP versions, if you know...
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JMD1961 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 March 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13 |
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I'm no expert, but most appear to come off their original albums, so I'd guess (and that's all it is...a guess) that they would be the LP versions.
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 178 |
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Some of those songs, I believe, were the same for the LP and 45, such as "Steal The Night" and "The Clapping Song." I know "Just Can't Win Em All" was an edit of the LP for the 45. The same is true for "All Our Tomorrows." "Years" was never on a Wayne Newton album, so it would be either the 45 version or a re-recording.
I've never downloaded any of those tracks, so I don't know about the quality, whether tape or vinyl source. |
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EdisonLite ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 203 |
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Answers to some of your questions:
Robbie Patton - Don't Give It Up - this only came out on a "Distant Shores" French CD about 10 years ago, from cleaned vinyl, with all high end removed - a CD I've called "the worst sounding CD of all time". The version on iTunes is clearly a good sounding source, from tape, and there are no other CD releases of this album shown on Amazon, so I'd say this comes from an online exclusive album. Jim Photoglo - Fool In Love With You - this has been available on a Japanese CD for about 10 years; there are no domestic CDs of this album. Stevie Woods - Steal The Night Stevie Woods - Just Can't Win 'Em All - the album these songs come from appears to be an online exclusive. No CDs show up on amazon. Greg Guidry - Goin' Down -this album (Sould Out) came out on an import CD in 2003. No domestic CDs. Eddie Schwartz - All Our Tomorrows -I think this is an online exclusive Wayne Newton - Years -this comes from an actual CD - Wayne Newton "Dynasty Collection Vol. 1", which has been out since 2007 |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 178 |
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I just listened to the snippets of the Stevie Woods songs on iTunes, and they are from vinyl, no question.
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EdisonLite ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 203 |
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That's too bad, Aaron. And as for other top 40 hits - For the first time ever, I saw the original Stonebolt album available digitally (on iTunes) today. (The only other CD that has the top 40 hit "Will Still Love You" is a Varese Sarabande CD where they took it from vinyl.) But I think this one may be from vinyl, too. Aaron, can you give a listen and tell me if you think it's from vinyl?
I also found on Amazon today, 30-song collections by both Mary MacGregor and Shaun Cassidy, filling in a lot of missing gaps on CD, but unfortunately, both were taken from vinyl! Certainly the Cassidy collection was, and I think the MacGregor one was too but I'm not sure. It makes me wonder if the actual owners are really putting these up (too lazy to transfer tapes or find them) or if it's just fans and/or bootleg labels. |
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EdisonLite ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 203 |
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BTW, Pat's site is highlighting (I assume, linking) words like "time", "CD", "domestic CDs", "songs" - but I'm not asking it to when I type in my text. It never did it before? Why is it all of a sudden doing it now?
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 178 |
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Ewww...bad sounding vinyl. You'll be better off doing the Stonebolt cleanup on your own.
I know for certain that fans and/or bootleg labels are not allowed to put things on iTunes. They require the person/company who owns the masters and rights to submit the songs. Now, it's possible that the original record labels would have given up the rights to the owners for some of those songs. I can't imagine it would be too profitable to spend any money or time on digging up the masters for songs like "I Will Still Love You" or "Holding On" by Tane Cain. In that case, the owners might not have had access to the master tapes. Perhaps they are lost or damaged. Maybe the owners even have the master tapes, but the tapes aren't playable any longer because of improper storage or lack of equipment. By the way, the Tane Cain sounds like vinyl to me, and so does Pink Lady's "Kiss In The Dark." Eddie Schwartz sounds like a tape source. The biggest shame is that iTunes still doesn't offer lossless. |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 178 |
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"Minimum Love" is definitely from vinyl, and "The Clapping Song" has vinyl ticks in it, too.
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