iTunes Finds?
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Topic: iTunes Finds?
Posted By: JMD1961
Subject: iTunes Finds?
Date Posted: 26 December 2009 at 4:53pm
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I was doing a search for Tom Johnston on iTunes this evening, looking for Savannah Nights. I found it with no problem. However, what really caught my eye was several items listed under the "Listeners Also Bought" links. There were several artists there that have tracks that, according to the DB, aren't available. I did a quick search and found several more. Here's a list:
Jim Photoglo - Fool In Love With You Tane Cain - Holding On Stevie Woods - Steal The Night Stevie Woods - Just Can't Win 'Em All Robbie Patton - Don't Give It Up Greg Guidry - Goin' Down Eddie Schwartz - All Our Tomorrows Pink Lady - Kiss In The Dark (not in database, but Top 40 in Billboard) Wayne Newton - Years Cliff Richard - Give A Little Bit More Mac McAnally - Minimum Love Pia Zadora - Clapping Song My question. Are these imports, online exclusives, or actual releases? I figure they are probably needle drops, but can't be sure. Has anyone checked them out? |
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 26 December 2009 at 6:46pm
| I guess another question is are these 45 or LP versions, if you know... |
Posted By: JMD1961
Date Posted: 26 December 2009 at 8:06pm
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I'm no expert, but most appear to come off their original albums, so I'd guess (and that's all it is...a guess) that they would be the LP versions.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 26 December 2009 at 9:36pm
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Some of those songs, I believe, were the same for the LP and 45, such as "Steal The Night" and "The Clapping Song." I know "Just Can't Win Em All" was an edit of the LP for the 45. The same is true for "All Our Tomorrows." "Years" was never on a Wayne Newton album, so it would be either the 45 version or a re-recording.
I've never downloaded any of those tracks, so I don't know about the quality, whether tape or vinyl source. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 27 December 2009 at 11:19am
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Answers to some of your questions:
Robbie Patton - Don't Give It Up - this only came out on a "Distant Shores" French CD about 10 years ago, from cleaned vinyl, with all high end removed - a CD I've called "the worst sounding CD of all time". The version on iTunes is clearly a good sounding source, from tape, and there are no other CD releases of this album shown on Amazon, so I'd say this comes from an online exclusive album. Jim Photoglo - Fool In Love With You - this has been available on a Japanese CD for about 10 years; there are no domestic CDs of this album. Stevie Woods - Steal The Night Stevie Woods - Just Can't Win 'Em All - the album these songs come from appears to be an online exclusive. No CDs show up on amazon. Greg Guidry - Goin' Down -this album (Sould Out) came out on an import CD in 2003. No domestic CDs. Eddie Schwartz - All Our Tomorrows -I think this is an online exclusive Wayne Newton - Years -this comes from an actual CD - Wayne Newton "Dynasty Collection Vol. 1", which has been out since 2007 |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 27 December 2009 at 11:48am
| I just listened to the snippets of the Stevie Woods songs on iTunes, and they are from vinyl, no question. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 27 December 2009 at 12:21pm
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That's too bad, Aaron. And as for other top 40 hits - For the first time ever, I saw the original Stonebolt album available digitally (on iTunes) today. (The only other CD that has the top 40 hit "Will Still Love You" is a Varese Sarabande CD where they took it from vinyl.) But I think this one may be from vinyl, too. Aaron, can you give a listen and tell me if you think it's from vinyl?
I also found on Amazon today, 30-song collections by both Mary MacGregor and Shaun Cassidy, filling in a lot of missing gaps on CD, but unfortunately, both were taken from vinyl! Certainly the Cassidy collection was, and I think the MacGregor one was too but I'm not sure. It makes me wonder if the actual owners are really putting these up (too lazy to transfer tapes or find them) or if it's just fans and/or bootleg labels. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 27 December 2009 at 12:23pm
| BTW, Pat's site is highlighting (I assume, linking) words like "time", "CD", "domestic CDs", "songs" - but I'm not asking it to when I type in my text. It never did it before? Why is it all of a sudden doing it now? |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 27 December 2009 at 12:45pm
Ewww...bad sounding vinyl. You'll be better off doing the Stonebolt cleanup on your own.
I know for certain that fans and/or bootleg labels are not allowed to put things on iTunes. They require the person/company who owns the masters and rights to submit the songs. Now, it's possible that the original record labels would have given up the rights to the owners for some of those songs. I can't imagine it would be too profitable to spend any money or time on digging up the masters for songs like "I Will Still Love You" or "Holding On" by Tane Cain. In that case, the owners might not have had access to the master tapes. Perhaps they are lost or damaged. Maybe the owners even have the master tapes, but the tapes aren't playable any longer because of improper storage or lack of equipment. By the way, the Tane Cain sounds like vinyl to me, and so does Pink Lady's "Kiss In The Dark." Eddie Schwartz sounds like a tape source. The biggest shame is that iTunes still doesn't offer lossless. |
EdisonLite wrote:Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 27 December 2009 at 12:49pm
| "Minimum Love" is definitely from vinyl, and "The Clapping Song" has vinyl ticks in it, too. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 27 December 2009 at 1:23pm
| Is "Years" on the Wayne Newton Dynasty Collection a re-recording? "Daddy Don't You Walk So Fast" sounds like it is. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 27 December 2009 at 1:24pm
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I have vinyl dubs of these 45's and the length seems to match the 45's lengths:
Jim Photoglo - Fool In Love With You Tane Cain - Holding On Stevie Woods - Steal The Night Robbie Patton - Don't Give It Up Greg Guidry - Goin' Down |
Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 27 December 2009 at 5:20pm
Yes, it's a re-recording (or at least a different recording than the hit 45). |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 27 December 2009 at 5:45pm
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<Cliff Richard - Give A Little Bit More >
This one is also available on an import CD; just no domestic CD. This is from the Cliff Richard "I'm No Hero" CD released in the UK quite a few years ago. I was always surprised this #41 hit wasn't included on Razor & Tie's Cliff Richard compilation CD, given there were 20 songs on it, and it's not like Cliff had 20 top 40 U.S. hits that would have pushed this song off the collection! So it seems like the initial list of iTunes finds in the first post above is nothing more than import CDs (released years ago) and vinyl transfers and re-recordings. I'm wondering if the Robbie Patton song is the only "find" in there. And now I'm wondering if it might have been taken from that cleaned-up-vinyl French CD and brightened up ... (If it IS from that CD, it's definitely brighter).... or if this is just another vinyl transfer ... or if someone actually got master tapes (or low gen tapes) for this one. Has anyone bought this mp3 or listened closely to the 30-second sample to tell what the source is on this one? (Aaron, have you? :) |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 27 December 2009 at 6:33pm
| Listening to the 30 second snippet, I don't hear anything that sounds like vinyl. It very well may be a master tape source. I did a vinyl transfer/cleanup on this song a couple years ago, and I'd take cleaned up vinyl over compressed, iTunes audio. If it were lossless, I'd buy it for sure. |
Posted By: bwolfe
Date Posted: 27 December 2009 at 7:20pm
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I purchased "Give A Little Bit More" from ITunes and found it to be from a tape source. (it never played on the radio where I lived, it was played on American Bandstand a few times). I also bought "Dreaming" and "A Little In Love." I would prefer regular CD's to compressed audio too. It is a shame that ITunes doesn't "come clean" when it comes to tracks that are from vinyl. "Wired For Sound" from Cliff Richard is another great early 80s American low charter that's a great find too! ------------- the way it was heard on the radio |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 28 December 2009 at 1:17am
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<I'd take cleaned up vinyl over compressed, iTunes audio.>
Interesting, Aaron. I'm the opposite. If an iTunes or Rhapsody source was from master tape, and the mp3 was 320 or 256, I'd take it over any cleaned vinyl. When I first started hearing mp3s ten years ago during the Napster days there were some really bad sounding mp3s and I didn't like the format at all. Now, when I make my own mp3s after my own mastering of WAVs from master tapes, I make them at 256 and choose the "high quality" option (it gives me 3 options at any speed - high, medium & low), I have to admit, when I play it back I can't tell it's an mp3 ... like those Napster ones from ten years ago that sounded so swooshy. In fact, I recently made a 232-song "UK Hits of the '70s" CDR series, and 3 of the songs I took from mp3s (but the mp3s were made from CDs that used master tapes), and then I remastered those files, just like I did the other 229 songs. When I play back the whole series on CDR, I can't tell the 3 songs that are from mp3 (vs. the other 229 from WAVs). So I have a question for you Aaron - if you were to hear, say, 100 songs on CDR, would you be able to pick up on which 3 were actually from mp3s - especially since all the songs were mastered by the same person? Most of my friends say I have very picky ears (In fact, on CD I can often hear when a lead vocal is punched or goes from one take to another, and it drives me crazy because I can't enjoy the song as much when I hear all the defects!) but I CAN'T always hear the difference between, say, a well-made 320 or 256 mp3 and a WAV. So I just wonder if you always can. And I'm not talking about A-B'ing a 320 mp3 and a WAV to hear if there's a slight difference - I'm simply asking if you heard 100 songs on CD-R and were told ahead of time that 3 came from very well-remastered 320 mp3 sources, would you immediately pick up on which 3 those were? |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 28 December 2009 at 7:03am
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I downloaded 5 of the songs off iTunes:
Tane Cain - correct 45 version - sounds like a tape source to my ears (if it's vinyl, it's VERY clean). Tom Johnston - correct 45 version - tape source. Patrick Simmons - correct 45 version - tape source. Stevie Woods - Steal The Night - correct 45 version - vinyl source. Stevie Woods - Just Can't Win 'Em All - LP length - vinyl source. I didn't download "Years" by Wayne Newton, but it's almost certainly a re-recorded version. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 28 December 2009 at 10:31am
The snippet also sounded VERY clean, but I could hear some vinyl ticks in a couple places, which is what gave it away. I was listening in some high-end headphones. Also, there are other songs on the album that are easier to spot the vinyl artifacts. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 28 December 2009 at 10:50am
If I am listening carefully on a good system or high-end headphones, I can probably tell 9 out of 10 times. Perhaps I'm not giving iTunes a fair shot, since I haven't downloaded anything from there in a couple years. It just seems like everything I have purchased from them sounded "swooshy" to my ears. Pretty much all of the song samples also sound "swooshy" which is what makes me hesitant to purchase them. The reason I would opt for cleaned up vinyl over mp3 (even from tape source) is that I have dozens of songs dubbed from vinyl using my own set up and cleaning techniques, and I cannot tell that they were taken from vinyl. The reverse is not true, though. There are very few mp3s that have tricked my ears. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 28 December 2009 at 11:19am
| Interesting, for me there's rarely a time when I can't tell something's from vinyl - especially when listening on headphones. If the software if good at removing obvious clicks, it's usually not 100% perfect at removing the "worn out" sound that many records have, especially the vinyl distortion that appears on loud parts of songs, also sometimes the "s" sibilance problem that occurs on vinyl is hard to fix, and then of course, there's the fade where the signal-to-noise ratio is so much lower that it becomes quite obvious that something's from vinyl. These problems are more noticeable on headphones, but whereas I used to only listen on speakers, these days I listen on headphones half the time (because I have an mp3 player), so it's in that setting that I notice things are from vinyl. And all the mp3s I make have none of the swooshy sound, so that's why I'd go for mp3. I agree, Aaron, that most 30-second samples, especially on amazon, have a low-fi, swooshy sound, but I don't find it to be on what I purchase. |
Posted By: Nick2341
Date Posted: 28 December 2009 at 2:12pm
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I noticed iTunes format labeled as MP3, but Apple uses AAC at 256 Kbps
(VBR) for their store format (iTunes Plus) not MP3. It's the Quicktime AAC encoder set on it's "high" setting. It actually brings down the volume of the track ever so slightly to minimize and sometimes completely get rid of the clipping that occurs during re-encoding. It actually sounds good and it's what I use on my iPod. However, I agree that I still won't pay for compressed music haha. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 28 December 2009 at 2:39pm
| Tane Cain is definitely from vinyl. Lots of noise reduction at the very end (last 5 sec. or so) with that swishy effect at the end. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 28 December 2009 at 5:11pm
I suppose I should modify my original statement. I wouldn't always prefer vinyl over a tape-source mp3. There are several cases where good sounding vinyl copies just aren't available. I suppose I should also give the new iTunes Plus a chance. I don't think I've downloaded anything in that format---just the old 128kbps AAC files. I've also encoded lots of things as 256 and 320, and it doesn't have the "swooshy" sound, per se, but I can still hear artifacts left behind by the encoder in many cases. |
Posted By: 80smusicfreak
Date Posted: 28 December 2009 at 5:44pm
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Hmmm, seems my fellow board members haven't been keeping pace w/ some of the latest '80s CD re-issues...
TANE CAIN - "Holdin' On": The song's original 1982 parent album, simply titled "Tane Cain" (which I've owned on cassette for over 20 years now) was legitimately re-issued on CD here in the U.S. this past July/August by the Renaissance label, and therefore, belongs in Pat's book/database. I haven't yet bought this CD myself, but intend to. Renaissance official web site: http://www.cdthen.net - http://www.cdthen.net . In addition, label founder/owner John W. Edwards sells his product on eBay under the user i.d. "renasanz_cd". I have dealt w/ him directly in the past (both through eBay and outside of eBay), and he is always helpful. He currently has multiple copies of the Tane Cain CD listed on eBay, starting at just $7.00 (also available through Amazon at a higher price). Is that worth it for a CD of great music that was made from a cleaned-up vinyl transfer??? You decide. While Renaissance may not always be able to use original master tapes for its CD re-issues, I prefer to look at the glass as half full; a lot of the '70s & '80s music that Edwards has made available on CD over the years is great stuff that both made & missed the top 40, and wouldn't exist on CD otherwise (and likely never will!)... |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 28 December 2009 at 6:28pm
| Is the Tane Cain album on iTunes courtesy of the Renaissance label? |
Posted By: 80smusicfreak
Date Posted: 28 December 2009 at 8:09pm
I can't say w/ 100% certainty, but if you & aaronk both detect some very minor sounds of vinyl on the tracks, then I'd say most likely, yes (based on some past CD re-issues from Renaissance). I'm not aware of the album ever being issued on CD previously, domestic or import... |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 28 December 2009 at 8:31pm
| What I noticed the most was the over use of noise reduction on the very end of the Tane Cain track on iTunes. Not sure if it's the same way on the Renaissance CD or not. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 28 December 2009 at 8:50pm
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<was legitimately re-issued on CD here in the U.S. this past July/August by the Renaissance label>
Please keep in mind that Renaissance also releases a lot of bootleg & illegitimate CDs. For instance, they sold the Jigsaw anthology without licensing the music properly through Splash Music, the company that owns the material. And when the owner of Splash Music, Chas Peate, contacted John Edwards to remove the CDs from ebay (even sending him a cease and desist letter), John said he would do so but then went on to totally ignore Splash's request and continued to sell the bootleg Jigsaw CDs on both ebay and amazon anyway! Buyers beware - when it comes to anything Renaissance. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 28 December 2009 at 8:52pm
| And btw, keep in mind that the reason so many of the Renaissance CDs are from vinyl is because the label is not licensing them through the proper channels, so they can't actually ask the license owners (master tape owners) to run off master tapes. More often than not, when a Renaissance CD is truly from master tape (at least in the last 5 years) haven't you noticed that the material was already available on CD in some other country, legitimately? And it's easy just to use another CD as a source. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 29 December 2009 at 12:14am
Try Foobar's AAC encoder at the 400kb setting. :D |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 29 December 2009 at 7:54am
I was wondering the same thing. I can see a legitimate CD release of a vinyl dub when the material is really old, or was released on some long-defunct or flash-in-the-pan label where the tapes no longer exist, but a major label release from the 80s? Sounds fishy to me. I also question the legitimacy of a "label" that sells its wares on Ebay. Getting back to the original subject, I'm a bit confused about Itunes. I've never used them, nor do I have plans to do so anytime soon, but I always thought of them as essentially an on-line "record store" (albeit one that you have to use proprietary bloatware to access) selling legitimate "singles" in the form of digital files authorized by those who own the rights to the tunes. Are they actually a legal Limewire (or equivalent) where anyone can post anything for download? |
Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 29 December 2009 at 9:03am
If you click on the album title in iTunes, among the info you're given is a copyright line. For the Tane Cain album it says "(p) 2009 Renaissance". It's either from a tape source or very clean vinyl. |
Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 29 December 2009 at 9:09am
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PINK LADY - KISS IN THE DARK
The iTunes download is from vinyl, but until the fadeout (where surface noise is clearly audible) you have to listen carefully to notice. My main issue with the iTunes download is that it is mono, while my 45 is definitely stereo. It also has what Pat would describe as a truncated fade (the track abruptly ends before the song fully fades out) and is therefore a second or two shorter than the 45. Copyright line says "(p) 2009 Sire". |
Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 29 December 2009 at 9:13am
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JIM PHOTOGLO - FOOL IN LOVE WITH YOU
There are at least two differences between my U.S. commercial 45 and the iTunes download from the album of the same name. My 45 starts with a few cymbal taps and a bass note before the first drumbeat, while the download starts with the drumbeat. I haven't determined yet whether they are two different recordings, but there are differences in the way instruments are positioned in the stereo spectrum. Copyright line says "(p) 2009 Sire". |
Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 29 December 2009 at 9:32am
I don't have this album, but I believe that Sould Out was a brand new CD when it was released and contained a new recording of "Goin' Down". The original album containing the hit version of "Goin' Down", Over The Line, has Japanese CD versions listed on eBay. The Sould Out "album" on iTunes borrows the name and cover from the CD but contains all 33 songs Guidry released on his three CDs, including both versions of "Goin' Down", for $4.99. (The 3:42 version is the hit version but is from vinyl.) The copyright line on iTunes says "(p) 2009 Jazmine". (Jazmine is the name of a European label that issues recordings that have fallen into the public domain there under the 50-year rule. The Greg Guidry recordings clearly do not fall into this category.) According to this webpage: http://www.bluedesert.dk/guidry.html Guidry issued the Over The Line album on CD himself in 2000. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 29 December 2009 at 11:51am
No, they only accept recordings from labels or individuals who can prove they own the master rights and/or copyrights. As we've seen, though, the system can be "scammed." |
Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 30 December 2009 at 2:11pm
| I've compared the Tane Cain, Pia Zadora, and Greg Guidry iTunes tracks with the 45s, and as is often the case with tracks dubbed from vinyl, they all fade out a couple of seconds or so before the 45s do. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 30 December 2009 at 11:56pm
That's usually the case with most pre-digital-era recordings, from vinyl or not. |
Posted By: RichM921
Date Posted: 31 December 2009 at 6:35pm
Well then the iTunes version could be the album version or the re-recording that came out years later. The original album version does not contain the cymbal taps, but it does run a few seconds longer since the 45 does contain an edit. I'm curious to know which version iTunes has. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 01 January 2010 at 2:36am
| How exactly do you edit the LP version of "Fool In Love With You" to create the 45 version? |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 01 January 2010 at 2:38am
| Hey - I just realized that in my post above, I created the very first post of the new decade. |
Posted By: mstgator
Date Posted: 02 January 2010 at 8:18am
I downloaded it, and it sounds like the album version to me (iTunes does have the re-recording available on Passages). I'd also be interested in where the edit falls on the 45. |
Posted By: RichM921
Date Posted: 04 January 2010 at 5:58pm
I'm gonna have to give you an answer by memory since I'm in the process of moving and half of my stuff is still packed away including all of my music. Technically, the 45 can't be recreated from the album because the 45 has those previously mentioned cymbal taps at the beginning. Otherwise I believe the only edit is in the intro. Chop off the first 13 seconds of the album version, and add the cymbal taps at the beginning. Once I get that unpacked, I'll take another listen and let you know if there is anything I need to add to that info. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 04 January 2010 at 11:15pm
| I've spoken too soon regarding iTunes. I just purchased my first "iTunes +" file, and I am quite impressed with the sound quality. I don't hear any of the digital artifacts that I hear on even a 256kbps mp3. They have obviously made drastic improvements to the sound quality in their store. And if they all sound as good as the song I just downloaded, I would choose an "iTunes +" file from tape source over a mint vinyl copy, without question. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 04 January 2010 at 11:41pm
| Same here Aaron. What song did you buy on iTunes that sounds so good? And what is the "iTuens +" format? Does that mean lossless, and if so, which type specifically? |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 05 January 2010 at 12:19am
Well, you know, AAC (which is the iTunes format) is technologically superior to MP3. AAC doesn't just randomly cut off all high frequencies like MP3 does. It's "more intelligent" than MP3, picks and chooses what to cut out more carefully. This from Wikipedia article on AAC:
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 05 January 2010 at 1:07pm
I purchased ZZ Top's "Sharp Dressed Man" [Digital 45], since the 45 turns out to have a unique mix. There are a couple import CDs that may have the right version, but I figured this would be as good of a time as any to try out iTunes again. The "iTunes +" is what Brian describes above---256kbps AAC. Almost everything in the store is now encoded in that bitrate, whereas it used to be 128kbps. I think only certain songs have not been upgraded, namely the ones where they did not have an uncompressed source to encode from. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 05 January 2010 at 7:24pm
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I was able to recreate the 45 for "Fool In Love With You" from Jim Photoglo using the iTunes source. Add the opening taps from the 45 at the beginning and take out about 10 seconds of the intro from :10 to about :21 seconds in and you have the 45 version. I didn't, unfortunately, write down exact times.
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Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 19 January 2010 at 11:12am
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There are quite a few tracks on iTunes that still are listed in the database as never on a domestic CD, including these from the seventies:
Breaking Up Is Hard To Do - Lenny Welch '70 Sing A Song For Freedom - Frijid Pink '70 Song Of Joy - Miguel Rios '70 Give Ireland Back To The Irish - Wings '72 Last Kiss - Wednesday '74 Tell Me A Lie - Sami Jo '74 Baby Face - Wing and A Prayer Fife & Drum Corps. '76 The last track runs 6 1/2 minutes long (must be the LP version). The Miguel Rios track is in Spanish (not the English version heard on the debut of AT40). ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: PaulEschen
Date Posted: 19 January 2010 at 12:52pm
| The Wing And A Prayer LP on ITunes is definitely from a vinyl source. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 19 January 2010 at 2:43pm
| I'm wondering, after listening to the samples, if Sami Jo's "Tell Me A Lie" and "Last Kiss" from Wednesday are either remixed or re-recorded. |
Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 19 January 2010 at 4:29pm
| I don't know what's being offered in the US, but on the Canadian iTunes service there are two different versions of "Last Kiss" by Wednesday being offered. The one on a multi-artist compilation called Kiss Me is a re-recording, but Unidisc (which controls the masters) has released the original Last Kiss album on iTunes. |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 20 January 2010 at 5:53am
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A couple of others I was surprised to see on iTunes:
"Think It Over" by Cheryl Ladd "Love Being Your Fool" by Travis Wammack Both made the Top 40 in Billboard, but aren't in Pat's database. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 20 January 2010 at 11:26am
Had a chance to listen to the Cheryl Ladd sample. It sounds like a noisy vinyl source, perhaps with added noise reduction. Not worth purchasing. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 20 January 2010 at 1:11pm
What's strange about that is that "Think It Over" is available on at least 2 CDs: a Cheryl Ladd compilation CD from Japan, and a US CD called "Lost Hits of the '70s". You'd think they could get a good source and maybe even use one of these CDs, so as not to have a vinyl source. |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 13 March 2010 at 7:39pm
Did anyone else notice when Pat added this one to the database it was added with a June 2010 date? You see the date at the top of the page after clicking on the View Latest Entries link. ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 06 April 2010 at 6:24pm
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I went to the Itunes site today to purchase some of the digital tracks mentioned in this post and was surprised to discover the following songs are no longer available on Itunes:
Jim Photoglo - Fool In Love With You Robbie Patton - Don't Give It Up Greg Guidry - Goin' Down Pia Zadora - Clapping Song Wings - Give Ireland Back To The Irish Sami Jo - Tell Me A Lie |
Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 07 April 2010 at 3:50am
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Maybe these weren't authorized. I've seen some "suspicious" labels on services like Rhapsody. I mean, what's to stop somebody from contacting I Tunes, telling them that they own the rights to say, the "Underground Sunshine", and post some "mastered from vinyl" tracks?
I'm not saying that the Underground Sunshine is a bogus post on I Tunes, but there is some awful sounding stuff on Rhapsody and other services, from labels I've never heard of. Some labels could be exaggerating limited rights they may have for physical distribution and are now distributing online. Or they're just lying. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 07 April 2010 at 7:09pm
| Many of the samples of those songs I heard sounded like poor vinyl transfers from random labels I'd never heard of. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 08 April 2010 at 9:02am
I, too, recently had looked up Robbie Patton in iTunes, but not for this song which I already have, for the rest of the Distant Shores album - and as Pat pointed out, this (the whole album actually) was gone. I was thinking about getting some of the album cuts. Did anyone here download this whole album before it went offsite, by any chance? |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 08 April 2010 at 6:04pm
------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 08 April 2010 at 9:43pm
So has Rhapsody. |