Sam The Sham & The Pharaohs Ring Dang Doo

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   I have come across a difference in the stereo and mono versions of this track. 

They are very similar, but I notice the difference right away during the opening 

"Well...." - they are not sung the same. Another difference is at about 0:21, 

there is a "yeah" after "1,000 girls" that is in the stereo but not the mono. I 

didn't go in any further...

Anyone know the song's history? The database does not specify a difference. 

Might we have another (stereo) LP/45 difference (and database update).

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davidclark Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 19	Post Options Post Reply Quote davidclark Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Sam The Sham & The Pharaohs Ring Dang Doo Posted: 04 March 2024 at 2:40am
	I have come across a difference in the stereo and mono versions of this track. They are very similar, but I notice the difference right away during the opening "Well...." - they are not sung the same. Another difference is at about 0:21, there is a "yeah" after "1,000 girls" that is in the stereo but not the mono. I didn't go in any further... Anyone know the song's history? The database does not specify a difference. Might we have another (stereo) LP/45 difference (and database update).
	dc1

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 March 2024 at 9:41am
	David the parent LP for this song was the Best Of vinyl LP and I do not have a mono or stereo copy of that vinyl LP which is what we need to get to the bottom of this. If anyone with a copy of either one of these LP's please chime in.

davidclark Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 19	Post Options Post Reply Quote davidclark Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 March 2024 at 6:35pm
	Pat, I see it listed on 1965 LP "Sam The Sham & The Pharaohs On Tour". Wouldn't that be it's parent LP? https://www.discogs.com/master/465683-Sam-The-Sham-And-The- Pharaohs-On-Tour I have also found a YouTube video that purports to be the "On Tour" vinyl LP playing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28U6kMDhIf0 It is indeed a vinyl source, so unless someone comes forward with more news, I think we should consider this to be yet another 45 vs. LP issue as the LP version is a different vocal take. Edited by davidclark
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Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 March 2024 at 1:44pm
	But is this LP mono or stereo/ You seem to indicate it is stereo but there was undoubtedly a mono issue of this LP as well so I need to find out what version was on the mono issue.

davidclark Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 19	Post Options Post Reply Quote davidclark Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 March 2024 at 8:30pm
	Yes, according to BSN "On Tour" was issued in both stereo and mono - normal for the time. It would be great to learn what was on the mono issue, but I bet it's the mono 45. So, then we would have a "stereo LP version", not just "LP version" as I'd indicated. But of course until we can listen, we'll not know for sure. At any rate, there is indeed an unresolved issue with this song.
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Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 October 2024 at 7:17pm
	I have finally obtained a mono vinyl LP of "On Tour" and surprising at it may seem the song is indeed in mono but it does include the "yeah" at :21 so for some reason MGM used a stereo version and bridged it to mono for the mono LP. I don't know exactly what terminology to use so I guess it should read "stereo and mono LP version" for all stereo cd entries. The mono 45 version has yet to appear on a mono LP.

davidclark Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 19	Post Options Post Reply Quote davidclark Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 October 2024 at 7:50pm
	Thanks for clearing this one up, Pat. That is surprising indeed - it just goes to show, it takes one of us to listen to these original issues to get to the bottom of our always-coming-up anomalies!
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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 115	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 October 2024 at 7:10am
	I think "LP version" works for the description. There's usually not a "mono" or "stereo" description added unless there's a difference beteen the two. Fold-downs typically haven't been treated as a separate "version" but rather noted by the (M). Am I missing something else in this case?
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