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In the early 80s, Larry Uttal's son stopped paying storage facility fees for the warehouse where all the Private Stock master tapes were stored, so the facility trashed the masters. His son (I guess from your post, his name must be Jai?) couldn't see, in the early '80s, there'd ever be a need or want for any of those tapes. Had he waited a couple more years and seen that the CD format came along, he probably would have realized their value. So only people who owned their master tapes and licensed them to Private Stock (or bought them back) have master tapes. Besides Valli, I believe Barry Gibb owns the tapes for Samantha Sang's "Emotion" album. David Soul was licensed from UK.

It appears Starbuck's "Moonlight Feels Right" was gotten off some tape for Rhino's "Have a Nice Day" series by Bill Inglot (the theory is he found some K-Tel album type tape source and used it. If someone knows Bill, it would be interesting to see what he remembers of that.) And according to Mark Mathews, it's indeed a tape source (yet every CD with "Everybody Be Dancin'" and "I Got To Know" a clean disc dubs.)

Since Austin Roberts' "Rocky" got to #22 in the UK, I'm hoping someone there unearths a tape copy and puts that on a compilation. That was a big enough hit there. And I presume a tape was sent over to the UK for the release. If so, it's doubtful that both the UK storage facility and the US storage facility suffered the same fate. But you never know. (It came out on Private Stock UK).
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The following original labels have no source tapes available for reissue, either due to legal issues, bankruptcies, or the death of the principal who owned them. Windsong, John Denver's label for which Starland Vocal Band recorded, while owned by Denver's estate, is tied up in litigation over which of his heirs have control over Windsong's properties. Sussex, Chelsea and Private Stock still own the rights to their recordings but lost the source tapes in bankruptcies. Those in possession of the source tapes are unwilling to allow their use to generate profit for the rights owners, and who they actually are remains a mystery. Many of Private Stock's hits were licensed from foreign sources. Samantha Sang, Michael Zager Band, Frankie Valli, and a few other Private Stock artists' recordings were licensed from outside sources, so original non-Private Stock source tapes exist for those recordings. Wes Farrell licensed "Sky High" by Jigsaw from the UK label named Splash that owned it.

Blame Lou Adler for The Mamas & the Papas missing tapes. Adler mixed the singles FIRST. Albums were mixed to stereo, then folded to mono for mono pressings. The exception was with FAREWELL TO THE FIRST GOLDEN ERA, a hits compilation. Stereo pressings contained the stereo album mixes, however mono pressings contained the single mixes of three songs, as the single masters were spliced into the mono album reels so that the single versions would appear on the mono album. Those three songs are "I Saw Her Again," "Words of Love," and "Creeque Alley," all of which contain instrumentation not heard on the parent stereo or mono albums on which the songs appeared. When ABC obtained the Dot Records catalog, something had to go to make way for Dot, so ABC junked its multitrack session tapes and mono album masters, figuring they'd never need them again, and with the purge went the single mixes of those three Mamas & Papas tracks. Lou Adler did a similar thing with Scott McKenzie's "San Francisco (Be Sure to Wear Flowers in Your Hair)." Some Ode 45s have an echoed and compressed tympani pounding during the bridge, which the "hit" version does not have, nor does the stereo album mix.
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Originally posted by Todd Ireland Todd Ireland wrote:

I just wanted to point out that, for some strange reason, Gene Chandler's "Duke of Earl" is mastered from vinyl on his Greatest Hits CD on Collectables 5518.


The 2-track master for "Duke of Earl" disappeared almost as soon as the stereo LP was pressed. Subsequent pressings claim to be stereo on the covers, but the records play in mono.
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Originally posted by Tom Daly Tom Daly wrote:

Blame Lou Adler for The Mamas & the Papas
missing tapes. Adler mixed the singles FIRST. Albums were mixed to
stereo, then folded to mono for mono pressings. The exception was
with FAREWELL TO THE FIRST GOLDEN ERA, a hits compilation.
Stereo pressings contained the stereo album mixes, however mono
pressings contained the single mixes of three songs, as the single
masters were spliced into the mono album reels so that the single
versions would appear on the mono album. Those three songs are "I
Saw Her Again," "Words of Love," and "Creeque Alley," all of which
contain instrumentation not heard on the parent stereo or mono albums
on which the songs appeared. When ABC obtained the Dot Records
catalog, something had to go to make way for Dot, so ABC junked its
multitrack session tapes and mono album masters, figuring they'd
never need them again, and with the purge went the single mixes of
those three Mamas & Papas tracks. Lou Adler did a similar thing with
Scott McKenzie's "San Francisco (Be Sure to Wear Flowers in Your
Hair)." Some Ode 45s have an echoed and compressed tympani
pounding during the bridge, which the "hit" version does not have, nor
does the stereo album mix.

Actually, the long standing rumor is that the head of ABC, Jay Lasker,
junked ALL the mono tapes for Dunhill and ABC. Also, that's not true
about the Mamas & Papas mono LPs being fold-downs of the stereo
mixes. Just about all of those M&P mono mixes are dedicated (to the
one I love) mixes.
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