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    Posted: 30 December 2011 at 8:29pm
my commercial 45 for the stevie wonder song "higher ground"
issued as tamla 54235 states the run time on the label as
3:10 and does indeed run that length......the import 2 cd
set contains the 3:44 lp version while the USA counterpart
contains the 3:10 45 version.....another fyi for the board
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Is the single version an early fade or are there edit points?
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My notes indicate the 45 edits out a verse from 1:48 to 2:19 and fades earlier
than the LP.
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The database says Definitive Collection has the 3:10 45 version, and Number 1s has the 3:44 LP version.

The version on my copy of Definitive Collection seems to be the 45 version, fading out at 3:10, and the section from 1:48 to 2:19 is indeed missing (at 1:48 the lyric is "lovers" instead of "teachers").

My copy of Number 1s is a digital reissue. There, the song runs 3:45, but it's not the LP version. It has the same section cut out as on Definitive Collection, and instead of fading out by 3:10, the fade starts at 3:05 and the music goes on longer than the album version. Are the actual CDs this way too?
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It seems that the CD version of Number 1s has the same edit that's on the digital issue.

The LP version fades from 3:27 to 3:42, at which point the next song on Innervisions starts.

The Original Musiquarium collection from 1982 extends farther than anything previously released to that point, fading from 3:35 to 3:47.

But Number 1s goes way beyond those two versions (maybe to the end of the performance?) If you were to splice back in the 1:48-to-2:19 that's edited out of the 45, the version on Number 1's would fade from 3:35 to 4:16!
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Originally posted by crapfromthepast crapfromthepast wrote:


But Number 1s goes way beyond those two versions
(maybe to the end of the performance?) If you were to
splice back in the 1:48-to-2:19 that's edited out of the
45, the version on Number 1's would fade from 3:35
to 4:16!

Wow, I would love a 4:16 version of "Higher Ground" !

Does anyone know if it exists anywhere on an import or
digital service?

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You'll have to edit together such a version yourself using the LP version from Innervisions and the "extended fade" single edit
off of Number 1s.

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Thanks Ron for letting us know about this extended single
mix. It was a compilation with an ugly cover that I didn't
give a second glance at. Even if I saw the timing, I would
have thought it was an early fade.
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Originally posted by LunarLaugh LunarLaugh wrote:

You'll have to edit together such a
version yourself using the LP version from Innervisions and
the "extended fade" single edit
off of Number 1s.

Yeah, I feared that.

I'm good with editing, but I'm not excellent at inserting
passages with different EQs, different compression levels
and different peak limiting...

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I can probably make it happen if nobody has done so yet, but I don't have the #1s disc.
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