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    Posted: 14 June 2006 at 1:10pm
I'm a little confused on this one... The database lists two different run times for Van Morrison's "Domino." One is (3:06)-(3:07) and the other is (3:03). Given that the song ends cold, I'm wondering how these all contain the "LP version." I know that the 45 runs about (3:01), so could this shorter version be the 45? Is there something different between the 45 & LP other than the length?
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I'm thinking that either the 45 is faster or the CD time takes dead space into account.
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The 45 contains an edit at about the 2:43 mark. A few seconds are edited out; offhand, I can't recall the length of the excised section.
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My stock WB 45 runs 3:03. I don't hear any edits in the 2:43 area.

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I've done this one and it's one easy edit - the 6.5 second section from roughly 2:40.50 to 2:47
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote davidclark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 June 2006 at 4:44pm
do we have an issue of speed again? The version on Best of runs faster than the version I have on Sounds of the Seventies 1970. Also, do we have two 45s, one with and one without an edit? What was the 45 speed, the Best Of version with "His Band And The Street Choir" LP being slower? Pop Annual shows timing as 3:02.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Paul Esch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2006 at 11:11am
I have the re-issue 45 of "Domino" (Warner GWB 0454) and it is
almost exactly the same speed as what's on the CD His Band And
The Street Choir
(Warner W2-1884). It's time is listed at 3:02 and
runs 3:01. But, and again this is a re-issue single, to my ears there
seems to be a different mix; the 45 has echo on everything (easiest
to hear on the opening guitar and Van's vocals), while the CD version
is comparably dry. Warner was usually pretty good about putting
the original 45 versions on their re-issue 45's, but I don't have an
original 45 with which to compare.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote davidclark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 June 2006 at 5:27am
re-issue 45s are often do not match their original counterparts. I would still like someone to tell us about the speed differences I hear.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rick Hunter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2006 at 1:15pm
Like everyone on this thread, this one is driving me nuts. I have three CDs containing Domino - His Band And The Street Choir, Best Of and the Time-Life Sounds Of The Seventies SOD-01.

I ripped all three into Adobe Audition 1.5 for comparison. After trimming the opening dead audio to the first guitar note of the intro on each, I found that all three versions are virtually the same length. At the last audible portion of the final horn note, the Street Choir and Best Of versions clocked in (using the Adobe digital clock) at 3:06 - give or take a couple of tenths of seconds. Given the disparate times in the previous posts and in Pat's database, I can't explain why this is so...but I trust the software and its clock.

Concerning the edit...prior to the compact disc era, I played Domino on the radio for many years - initially the vinyl 45, and later the cartridge tape dub of the 45. In fact (gulp) I played it as a current hit in late '70. I'm trusting that my memory of the single is still intact, but you never know.

For anyone interested, the edit I've done on all three occurs after the third and final "on the radio" lyric...immediately after "radio." Essentially, it cuts out the three "uhh-ahh's", to the "hear" of the "hear the band." Technically, the edit is from 2:42:000 to 2:49.886 on the Adobe clock - so it's a 7.266 second edit.

Thus, the 45 edit running time for each is again similar, at 2:59 - give or take. Again this concerns me because it obviously conflicts with the vinyl 45 times given by Aaron and Gary. Can either of you supply me with a copy of the stock or reissue 45 for review?

We're currently using my version on WOMC, so I'd like to ensure that I've got it right. Likewise, I hope this helps everyone, without muddying the waters too much more.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote davidclark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 July 2006 at 11:27am
i feel this post need reviving, as we never did resove anything. Timings/speed/edits 45 vs. LP.
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