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Hall/Oates "A Nite At The Apollo Live!" |
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Scanner ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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The very long titled "A Nite At The Apollo Live! The
Way You Do The Things You Do/My Girl" was a Top 25 Pop hit (# 20 Billboard, # 22 Cashbox, #24 R&R) in 1985. The physical 45 credits "Daryl Hall John Oates," but the picture sleeve also credits David Ruffin and Eddie Kendrick. So, the debate - should or shouldn't this single be considered part of the official chart histories of Kendrick and Ruffin? |
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 39 |
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Yes!
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thecdguy ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5 |
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I would also say yes, since Hall & Oates are essentially background singers on the song. Plus, it's on the "20th Century Masters" discs of both Ruffin & Kendrick.
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Dan In Philly
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Scanner ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Your answer was a lot shorter than that song title!
:-) How does Record Research determine who should and should not be credited for a song? I have always leaned toward the physical single (45, cassingle, CD). The artwork is always replaceable. (I even recall back in the days of the 45 that picture sleeves were often unavailable if you tried purchasing a single later in its chart run.) But, the label is not and, to me, permanently provides the single's intended credits. Of course, that does not resolve whether artists like Kendrick and Ruffin should be credited when their contributions are so apparent, but the label does not acknowledge that. At least they are mentioned on the 45 label as part of the album title. Did record companies ever provide Billboard or other chart publications with "official" credits? Billboard credited this song to "Daryl Hall & John Oates" (although they lost the "&" by then) on the published charts, but the song title was also abbreviated to exclude "A Nite At The Apollo Live!" (Just so much space on the page to list this!) |
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Using that rationale, Kenny Rogers has included "What Are We Doin' In Love" on some of his compliations. But, he was never credited on the 45 or on the charts for this song. (Can you tell this topic flusters me?!?) :-) |
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 39 |
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Joel used to go by whatever was on the official record
label and would just put in a trivia note for any additional vocalists. (FWIW, I always agreed with this philosophy, but he's the author, so he makes the final decisions). In recent years, he's been more inclined to go by the actual recording itself. Thus, Kenny Rogers gets credit for "What Are We Doin' In Love", Sheena Easton gets credit for "U Got The Look", and there are many more such examples. Of course, with all "featuring" credits in recent years, we've tried to sort out the actual duets from the 10 second rap ones, which is a never-ending job every week. So, in short, there's no easy answer to this dilemma. I guess it comes down to personal preference. |
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thecdguy ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5 |
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Does anyone know the origin of the version of
this song that appears on the VA Compilation, "Hi Octane: Hard Drivin' Hits"? For those who have never heard it, it cuts out the fade in from the single version and opens cold with the horn intro of "The Way You Do The Things You Do". It also fades out while "My Girl" is still being sung whereas the single fades out with audience applause. Trying to figure out if this version was released anywhere else or maybe a special edit that was done for some reason. Edited by thecdguy |
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Dan In Philly
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kaqueno ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 November 2021 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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According to the database it is (edit of LP version) |
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Marcelo - Argentina
https://www.mixcloud.com/marcelo-guzman4/ - https://www.discogs.com/user/kaqueno/collection |
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thecdguy ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5 |
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Thanks Kaqueno, I figured it was an edit of
the LP Version, I just wanted to see if it had been released anywhere else prior to this VA Compilation. I looked at some of the other configurations of the single on Discogs and couldn't find any that match the running time of this version (about 5:45). The closest I could find was the A-Side of the US 12" Single which states a running time of 7:00. |
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