James Brown-"The Payback - Part I"

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   My commercial 45, which is stereo, confirmed as Polydor 14223 with deadwax info of "PD 14223 - AS-1B 2-1-1", has both a listed and actual time of (3:30). I only post this info because all current database CDs that include the "45 version" of this song have run times ranging from (3:19) to (3:31). 

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jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: James Brown-"The Payback - Part I" Posted: 13 September 2010 at 10:20pm
	My commercial 45, which is stereo, confirmed as Polydor 14223 with deadwax info of "PD 14223 - AS-1B 2-1-1", has both a listed and actual time of (3:30). I only post this info because all current database CDs that include the "45 version" of this song have run times ranging from (3:19) to (3:31).

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 268	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 April 2011 at 10:30pm
	There currently are no notes about the two different versions---with DJ chatter and without. Were 45s pressed both ways? The "Can You Dig It" box set has the version with chatter, while the "Have A Nice Decade" box set is without, yet all discs simply say "45 version" with no indication of which one you get.
	Aaron Kannowski Uptown Sound 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop

The Hits Man Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 04 February 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote The Hits Man Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 April 2011 at 10:36pm
	The database needs to designate which CDs have the DJ voiceovers. The "Billboard Top R&B Hits: 1974" CD also has the version with the DJ voiceovers.


eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 123	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 April 2011 at 6:47am
	The DJ Promo Version on CD has no chatter. Edited by eriejwg

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 268	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 April 2011 at 9:25am
	You might be onto something, John. Is the version without the chatter/voiceovers only on promo 45s, or were there commercial 45s like this, too?
	Aaron Kannowski Uptown Sound 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 April 2011 at 7:15pm
	A dj promo cd single from 1974? My commercial vinyl 45 has the MC banter.

The Hits Man Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 04 February 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote The Hits Man Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 April 2011 at 7:21pm
	My commercial 45 also has the banter.


eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 123	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 April 2011 at 9:34pm
	I should have been less confusing, sorry. The DJ 45 version from The Singles Volume 9: 1973-1975 has no DJ banter.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 268	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 April 2011 at 11:00pm
	So, it's looking so far like commercial copies all have the banter. Is it safe to say that the "no banter" version was only on promo 45s? If so, all "45 version" CDs that are missing the banter should probably say "dj 45 version."
	Aaron Kannowski Uptown Sound 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 April 2011 at 8:55am
	Correct Aaron but we really need verification that the vinyl dj 45 did not include the banter. As you know the James Brown singles cd series has contained a number of errors.