richard marx "should’ve known better"

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   the database states that the richard marx greatest hits cd contains the 3:38 45 version.......my greatest hits cd contains the 4:10 full lp/cd version.......are there 2 versions of this greatest hits cd??

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edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 15	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: richard marx "should’ve known better" Posted: 20 December 2005 at 1:06pm
	the database states that the richard marx greatest hits cd contains the 3:38 45 version.......my greatest hits cd contains the 4:10 full lp/cd version.......are there 2 versions of this greatest hits cd??
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elcoleccionista Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 28 November 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote elcoleccionista Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 December 2005 at 8:08pm
	I have a Dutch pressing of "Greatest Hits" and it also contains the album version of "Should've Known Better". Furthermore, all singles on this compilation are album versions, no 45's as far as I can tell.

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 December 2005 at 11:16pm
	My Greatest Hits CD copy contains the 4:10 version of "Should've Known Better" too. The matrix number along the inner ring of the CD itself is: 724 382191421RE1.

crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 169	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 July 2007 at 9:08pm
	I created the 45 edit from the LP version on Only In The 80's (Big Ear Music EAZ-4003/Cema S21-18606, released 1995; mastered by Steve Hoffman - the very best-mastered version of this song). The LP version has a length of 4:12.8. To recreate the 45, keep only the following sections of the LP version: 0:00.0 - 0:13.5 Edit at snare (1-2-3-4) 0:16.3 - 0:19.2 Edit at snare (1-2-3-4) 0:22.0 - 0:25.9 Edit at downbeat (1-2-3-4) 0:31.6 - 2:39.1 Edit at downbeat in long instrumental passage; very audible splice in the 45 2:50.4 - end Add a 32-beat fade from 3:24-3:36 (if you don't do this manual fade, you'll get about :14 longer than 45 version) To check, your new 45 version should have edits at 0:13.5, 0:16.3, 0:20.2 and 2:27.7, with a fade (if you add it) starting roughly at 3:24. The actual 45 run time is about 3:34 or 3:35.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 276	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 July 2007 at 12:03am
	While my memory may be off on this, I seem to recall specifically picking up the Power Players compilation because the 45 version is slightly remixed. I'm pretty sure the LP cannot be edited to make the 45 because of mix differences.

crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 169	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 July 2007 at 6:01am
	The A-side of the 45 does have a "Remixed by ..." credit, but I couldn't hear any differences between the 45 and the CD version.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 276	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 July 2007 at 3:35pm
	I'm in the middle of moving right now, so I don't have access to my 45 & LP copies to give you specifics. At one time, I also tried editing the LP version to match the single, and that was when I realized I would have to buy the compilation with the true 45 version. To give you an idea, the remix of this one is sort of like the difference between the 45 & LP versions for "I Just Died In Your Arms" by Cutting Crew. Unless you're comparing them closely side-by-side, you might not realize the difference.

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 15	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2010 at 2:08pm
	my commercial 45 issued as manhattan 50083 states a run time as 3:38 but actually runs 3:36...this info s/b added to the db....
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Bwci Bo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 08 August 2013 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bwci Bo Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 October 2013 at 11:12pm
	The database lists Richard Marx's Should've Known Better as being the 45 version on Gold & Platinum Volume Four (Realm 7826). On my copy of this CD, Should've Known Better appears to be the LP version faded early to match the length of the 45 version. There doesn't appear to be any edits in the introduction or instrumental passage, as outlined by crapfromthepast in an earlier post. Somebody may wish to double check this for me, and if my findings are correct, the database may need updating to reflect this new information. Thanks.

Smokin' TomGary Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 26 June 2011 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Smokin' TomGary Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 October 2013 at 1:33pm
	There is a UK import CD Maxi Single (CDMT32 20 2372 2) with two versions plus two live versions of different titles. Cut 1 has an actual time of 3:35 and cut 3, listed as Extended Radio Mix, has an actual time of 4:31