richard marx "should’ve known better"
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Topic: richard marx "should’ve known better"
Posted By: edtop40
Subject: richard marx "should’ve known better"
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 1:06pm
the database states that the richard marx greatest hits cd contains the 3:38 45 version.......my greatest hits cd contains the 4:10 full lp/cd version.......are there 2 versions of this greatest hits cd??
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Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 8:08pm
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I have a Dutch pressing of "Greatest Hits" and it also contains the album version of "Should've Known Better". Furthermore, all singles on this compilation are album versions, no 45's as far as I can tell.
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 11:16pm
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My Greatest Hits CD copy contains the 4:10 version of "Should've Known Better" too. The matrix number along the inner ring of the CD itself is: 724 382191421RE1.
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Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 05 July 2007 at 9:08pm
I created the 45 edit from the LP version on Only In The 80's (Big Ear Music EAZ-4003/Cema S21-18606, released 1995; mastered by Steve Hoffman - the very best-mastered version of this song).
The LP version has a length of 4:12.8.
To recreate the 45, keep only the following sections of the LP version:
0:00.0 - 0:13.5
Edit at snare (1-2-3-4)
0:16.3 - 0:19.2
Edit at snare (1-2-3-4)
0:22.0 - 0:25.9
Edit at downbeat (1-2-3-4)
0:31.6 - 2:39.1
Edit at downbeat in long instrumental passage; very audible splice in the 45
2:50.4 - end
Add a 32-beat fade from 3:24-3:36 (if you don't do this manual fade, you'll get about :14 longer than 45 version)
To check, your new 45 version should have edits at 0:13.5, 0:16.3, 0:20.2 and 2:27.7, with a fade (if you add it) starting roughly at 3:24.
The actual 45 run time is about 3:34 or 3:35.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 06 July 2007 at 12:03am
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While my memory may be off on this, I seem to recall specifically picking up the Power Players compilation because the 45 version is slightly remixed. I'm pretty sure the LP cannot be edited to make the 45 because of mix differences.
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Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 06 July 2007 at 6:01am
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The A-side of the 45 does have a "Remixed by ..." credit, but I couldn't hear any differences between the 45 and the CD version.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 06 July 2007 at 3:35pm
I'm in the middle of moving right now, so I don't have access to my 45 & LP copies to give you specifics. At one time, I also tried editing the LP version to match the single, and that was when I realized I would have to buy the compilation with the true 45 version.
To give you an idea, the remix of this one is sort of like the difference between the 45 & LP versions for "I Just Died In Your Arms" by Cutting Crew. Unless you're comparing them closely side-by-side, you might not realize the difference.
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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 2:08pm
my commercial 45 issued as manhattan 50083 states a run time as 3:38 but actually runs 3:36...this info s/b added to the db....
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Posted By: Bwci Bo
Date Posted: 15 October 2013 at 11:12pm
The database lists Richard Marx's Should've Known Better as being the 45 version on Gold & Platinum Volume Four (Realm 7826). On my copy of this CD, Should've Known Better appears to be the LP version faded early to match the length of the 45 version. There doesn't appear to be any edits in the introduction or instrumental passage, as outlined by crapfromthepast in an earlier post. Somebody may wish to double check this for me, and if my findings are correct, the database may need updating to reflect this new information.
Thanks.
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Posted By: Smokin' TomGary
Date Posted: 16 October 2013 at 1:33pm
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There is a UK import CD Maxi Single (CDMT32 20 2372 2) with two versions plus two live versions of different titles. Cut 1 has an actual time of 3:35 and cut 3, listed as Extended Radio Mix, has an actual time of 4:31
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Posted By: Bwci Bo
Date Posted: 16 October 2013 at 1:47pm
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Thanks for the info Smokin' TomGary. I might have to see if I can pick up a copy of the import CD single because I'm not 100% happy with the custom edit I performed using the instructions from an earlier post. The edit at 2:27 doesn't sound right to me, and while crapfromthepast describes it as being 'a very audible splice' on the original 45, I don't have a copy to compare my creation to so I have no idea whether I replicated that particular edit correctly.
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