Barry Manilow-"Copacabana"

eriejwg wrote: What Ed sent me matches the 45 here.

Indeed. So it's the short 45 that has the drum underneath the "Her name was Lola" lyric, while the "Even Now" vinyl LP version does not (and it
runs six seconds longer, with two extra "Copacabana" background vocals near the end).

Good. Thanks, John! (And Ed!)

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As far as I remember, there were three English versions in 1978--the (3:58) "short" 45 version, the (4:04) "Even Now" vinyl LP version and the (5:46) "long" 45 version (aka the "disco version," which replaced the vinyl LP version on CD copies of "Even Now" and almost every other Barry Manilow hits CD since). (IIRC, the (5:46) version was the B-side of the (3:58) version.)

The "Even Now" vinyl LP version has at least three differences from the short 45--no drum in Barry's opening "Her name was Lola" line, and six more seconds of Lady Flash singing "Copacabana" twice after Manilow's second "don't fall in love" lyric (at about the (3:34) mark). The same drum difference also happens on Barry's "His name was Rico" lyric (present on the 45, not present on the "Even Now" vinyl LP). The mixes are slightly different as well. Otherwise, they're the same. Obviously the long 45 is way different.

The long 45 is the most common version out there. The short 45 can be heard on some pressings of the 1978 "Greatest Hits" CD. The "Even Now" vinyl LP version has not actually appeared in its correct form on CD, but does appear on both the "Madagascar 2" soundtrack and the "Complete Collection And Then Some" box set with the demo version overlapping the opening bongos (the demo version is complete on "Collection" and edited on "Madagascar 2"). You could conceivably graft the opening bongos from the short 45 onto the two (4:04) versions to create the correct "Even Now" LP version, but I'm not sure how different the mix is at that point.

Have little knowledge of the 1993 and "Dance Vault" versions.

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"Madagascar" is the film and OST for the film.

Still trying to sort through this. Excluding the long disco version for a moment, and concentrating on the shorter versions, the database says this:

(S) (3:54) Intrada 88 O.S.T. Foul Play (this is the short 45 version)

-this seems to be the only CD that has the true 45 version (albeit 3 seconds faded early)

But then for the early version of the 1978 "Greatest Hits" CD, it says this:

(S) (3:58) Arista 8039 Greatest Hits (edited 45 version;

What's the difference between the short 45 version and the "edited" 45 version?

Now, as far as the 4:04 original "Even Now" LP version, this has never appeared on CD in its proper form, because all the 4:04 versions that appear on CD (and there are 4 of them), all have the first 6 seconds incorporating the fade of the previous track (the demo version of "Copa") which overlaps with it. I can understand that "Complete Collection" would have the overlap because it was prefaced with the demo of "Copa" - but this "Summer Breeze" comp and "Madagascar" soundtrack puzzles me. Do they also use the 1:32 demo version on these 2 CDs (preceding the released version of "Copa"), or do they just start cold where "Copa" would normally start but with overdubs of a faded version that doesn't even exist on these CDs? (That must sound weird, if so.)

EdisonLite wrote: But then for the early version of the 1978 "Greatest Hits" CD, it says this: (S) (3:58) Arista 8039 Greatest Hits (edited 45 version; What's the difference between the short 45 version and the "edited" 45 version?

I think it's just semantics with the way Pat made the entries. The only difference between the 1978 "GH" short 45 version and the "Foul Play" OST version is the fade.

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