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Brian W.
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Posted: 26 September 2009 at 12:28am | IP Logged Quote Brian W.

Don't know if you've all heard it, but bulletin boards from SteveHoffman.tv to BSN are abuzz with the news: "R.I.P. Rhino Records," "Rhino is officially dead," "Rhino lays off entire staff as of 5:00 p.m.," etc.

Not according to Rhino.com. They laid off about a 1/3 of their staff, but they're still in business with over 100 employees and will still be releasing more titles, including Rhino Handmade and more Monkees deluxe editions.

But they are trying to change their business model over the next few months to be more competitive. You can read all about it here.

http://www.rhino.com/about/Exaggeration.lasso
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Posted: 26 September 2009 at 8:48pm | IP Logged Quote TomDiehl1

Rhino has gone wayyyyyyyy downhill since letting go of Bill Inglot, their quality control has really been slacking.... picked up some cds that are for sale only in Target stores, custom pressed by Rhino....some wrong versions, rechanneled stereo, etc, very sloppy.... Inglot would NEVER have let product get released like that....I do truly believe the end of that label is near....

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Posted: 27 September 2009 at 3:19pm | IP Logged Quote Hykker

Even when he was still there there were inexplicable things happening, for example the increasing amounts of mono on CDs where stereo was known to exist. From what I've read elsewhere he was very evasive and/or defensive when asked why.

The music industry as we know it will be vastly different in the not-so-distant future. Like it or not, downloads are the future and physical music media will become increasingly extinct. Even the concept of "record label" is becoming an anachronism.

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Posted: 27 September 2009 at 5:39pm | IP Logged Quote TomDiehl1

Bill had a preference for stereo when the mono was common on cd and a preference for mono when the stereo was common on cd. He also did not like 2-track mixes and would prefer to issue a song in mono if the only stereo mix was 2-track.

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TomDiehl1 wrote:
Bill had a preference for stereo when the mono was common on cd and a preference for mono when the stereo was common on cd. He also did not like 2-track mixes and would prefer to issue a song in mono if the only stereo mix was 2-track.


I think you'll find that Bill's involvement with mono was more to get the 45 versions of hits out into the marketplace again, rather than have another go-round for the LP versions. That, combined with mix differences between the then unavailable "hit" versions vs. the forever available stereo album versions.

Like Bill, I feel that 2-track mixes existed to facilitate post-production mixdowns to mono. They were never intended for commercial issue by the producers who recorded them. That blame goes to the bean counters in the front office who thrilled to the fact that stereo cost the consumer an extra buck over the mono album.

History has proved that with a little housecleaning, mono masters have disappeared and so the "hit" versions on CD had to come from vinyl. My favorite example is the 3 singles from The Mamas & the Papas, "I Saw Her Again," "Words of Love" and "Creeque Alley." All are different on the original 45s than they were on the original stereo and mono LPs. The three 45 masters were moved from the single reels where they were stored with their flip-sides to one of the mono LP reels for Farewell to the First Golden Era. Fast-forward to the 70s. In order to make room in the storage facility for the Dot masters ABC bought, the decree was made to junk all mono LP masters for which there was also a stereo LP master. With that decree went the masters for the 45 versions of the three songs mentioned above, along with the mono reels for D 50025, the mono issue of Golden Era, .
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