| Author |
|
aaronk
Admin Group
Joined: 16 January 2005
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6435
|
| Posted: 03 December 2021 at 11:42am | IP Logged
|
|
|
There are two basic recordings: LP version and 12” Short Version. The
US 45 is an early fade of the 12” Short Version. The LP version has the
spoken line “oh, no, not again,” and there are sung ad libs over the
intro. The 12” version doesn’t have any vocals until the first verse
begins. These are two different vocal takes.
__________________
Aaron Kannowski
Uptown Sound
91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
Jody Thornton
MusicFan
Joined: 23 May 2008
Location: Canada
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 462
|
| Posted: 03 December 2021 at 5:32pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
(Delete me - Dupe Comment)
Edited by Jody Thornton on 03 December 2021 at 5:34pm
__________________
Cheers,
Jody Thornton
(Richmond Hill, Ontario)
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
Jody Thornton
MusicFan
Joined: 23 May 2008
Location: Canada
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 462
|
| Posted: 03 December 2021 at 5:33pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
aaronk wrote:
| That's the 12" single version. |
|
|
Thanks Aaron. I pulled that out last night and clarified this. I know an edit was made of this version (at the beginning) plus an early fade. But the 12" single version was what what I heard most
Edited by Jody Thornton on 03 December 2021 at 5:34pm
__________________
Cheers,
Jody Thornton
(Richmond Hill, Ontario)
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
mjb50
MusicFan
Joined: 28 April 2021
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 274
|
| Posted: 03 December 2021 at 7:42pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
The LP version is a remix which comes in several variations:
5:46 Shep Pettibone Remix [= LP version]
7:41 Remix aka Extended Mix
8:55 Dub Version
4:10 Original 7" Version [= European 7" A-side, I think]
4:16 Euromix [= European 7" B-side, I think]
Most of those were only released outside the U.S.
The non-Pettibone mixes are just these, AFAIK:
4:55 Rumors [US 12" A-side, subtitled "Short Version"]
7:09 Vicious Rumors [US 12" B-side, subtitled "Long Version"]
3:33 Rumors [US 7", an early fade of the "Short Version"]
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
PopArchivist
MusicFan
Joined: 30 June 2018
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1479
|
| Posted: 03 December 2021 at 8:03pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
For anyone interested to know no digital service has the LP album. I checked already.
Only two options...the CD from 1986 overseas or the LP....
__________________
"I'm a pop archivist, not a chart philosopher, I seek to listen, observe and document the chart position of music."
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
aaronk
Admin Group
Joined: 16 January 2005
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6435
|
| Posted: 03 December 2021 at 8:08pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
That’s interesting about the LP version being mixed by Shep Pettibone.
Musically, the LP version is somewhat close to the original 12” Short
Version (and 45 version) but with an obviously different vocal take. The
longer Shep “Remix” found on overseas 12” singles has a completely
different feel from the LP version with several additional elements. I
was unfamiliar with the “Remix” until listening on YouTube today.
__________________
Aaron Kannowski
Uptown Sound
91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
AndrewChouffi
MusicFan
Joined: 24 September 2005
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1066
|
| Posted: 04 December 2021 at 6:23am | IP Logged
|
|
|
Thank you 'mjb50' and Aaron for the synopses of versions!
Andy
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
NightAire
MusicFan
Joined: 20 February 2010
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 983
|
| Posted: 02 August 2023 at 10:45pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
It's odd to me that the LP version is longer than the 12"
version (which is actually labeled "short version").
Does anybody know if the clubs at the time were playing the 12" (as I would assume), or were they pulling it off the LP to get more track length?
I'd love to hear from anybody who was DJing at the time, or anybody who was hitting he clubs in 1986.
__________________
Gene Savage
http://www.BlackLightRadio.com
http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage
Owasso, Oklahoma USA
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
AndrewChouffi
MusicFan
Joined: 24 September 2005
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1066
|
| Posted: 03 August 2023 at 6:57am | IP Logged
|
|
|
To Gene:
Everybody I know (including me) was playing the 12".
Constantly. I wouldn't even think of playing it off an LP
due to fear of rolled-off low end...
Andy
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
AutumnAarilyn
MusicFan
Joined: 22 August 2019
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 174
|
| Posted: 03 August 2023 at 2:33pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
It amazes at the assumptions that are always made. The
album version of "Rumors" was an earlier different vocal
and instrumental version. It nowhere as tight and in all
honesty sounds like a demo. You wouldn't be gaining much as
it is something totally different. Tunes that have
different track timings aren't always just edits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YX-7Z0hsGA
Edited by AutumnAarilyn on 03 August 2023 at 2:33pm
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
mjb50
MusicFan
Joined: 28 April 2021
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 274
|
| Posted: 08 August 2023 at 8:50pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
Indeed, I should have clarified when describing the versions that Pettibone's 5:46 mix, as used on the album, is a somewhat unique version, as compared to the European 7"/12" remixes he did and the original US hit versions he didn't do. It's definitely got a simpler feel, more like the original.
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
Active Topics 
Memberlist 
Search 
Help
Register 
Login
Top 40 Music on Compact Disc : Chat Board
Topic: Timex Social Club - Rumors
