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crapfromthepast
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Posted: 14 September 2006 at 2:32pm \| IP Logged

I couldn't tell if this has been discussed before (it's really hard to search on "A List"...)

Around 2003, I got a copy of a 50-CD set for radio called "The A List", which is a pretty definitive '80s pop collection - 700+ tracks, all of them hits from 1979-1989. It was put out in 1994 by a company that's no longer around (Swaitek, I think), and I've never seen another copy other than the one I own. Amazingly, it's got the hit versions of nearly everything - Prince, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Janet, etc.

I was hoping to find out a little more about how such things are put together. There are about 20 tracks clearly taken from vinyl, but everything else seems to be fairly clean or pretty well de-noised.

Does anybody else know anything about "The A List"? In particular, I want to know where they got their source material, since there are some mixes and edits on there that have never surfaced on CD before.

And just for giggles, here's the track listing for all 767 tracks (parsed funny with commas from my spreadsheet):

Hold The Line - Toto
Sad Eyes - John, Robert
Cruel To Be Kind - Lowe, Nick
My Life - Joel, Billy
I Want You To Want Me - Cheap Trick
Dance The Night Away - Van Halen
Every Time I Think Of You - Babys
Lady - Little River Band
Logical Song, The - Supertramp
Sultans Of Swing - Dire Straits
Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough - Jackson, Michael
Fire - Pointer Sisters
Send One Your Love - Wonder, Stevie
Bad Case Of Loving You (Doctor, Doctor) - Palmer, Robert
Babe - Styx
Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin' - Journey
What A Fool Believes - Doobie Brothers
Never Knew Love Like This Before - Mills, Stephanie
Chuck E.'s In Love - Jones, Rickie Lee
Coming Up - McCartney, Paul
Love Takes Time - Orleans
Let's Go - Cars
Give Me The Night - Benson, George
Mama Can't Buy You Love - John, Elton
Woman In Love - Streisand, Barbra
Honesty - Joel, Billy
Magic - Newton-John, Olivia
Just When I Needed You Most - Vanwarmer, Randy
Look What You've Done To Me - Scaggs, Boz
Heart Of The Night - Poco
We've Got Tonight - Seger, Bob
Lotta Love - Larson, Nicolette
Tired Of Toein' The Line - Burnette, Rocky
Tide Is High, The - Blondie
He's So Shy - Pointer Sisters
Little Jeannie - John, Elton
Let Me Love You Tonight - Pure Prairie League
Into The Night - Mardones, Benny
Cars - Numan, Gary
We Don't Talk Anymore - Richard, Cliff
It's Still Rock And Roll To Me - Joel, Billy
Special Lady - Ray Goodman and Brown
Let My Love Open The Door - Townshend, Pete
She's Out Of My Life - Jackson, Michael
Romeo's Tune - Forbert, Steve
Sailing - Cross, Christopher
Working My Way Back To You/Forgive Me, Girl - Spinners
Touch And Go - Cars
Hit Me With Your Best Shot - Benatar, Pat
Dreaming - Richard, Cliff
I Can't Tell You Why - Eagles
Brass In Pocket - Pretenders
Upside Down - Ross, Diana
Biggest Part Of Me - Ambrosia
Ninety-Nine - Toto
Misunderstanding - Genesis
Jesse - Simon, Carly
You May Be Right - Joel, Billy
Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac
Pilot Of The Airwaves - Dore, Charlie
All Out Of Love - Air Supply
Fame - Cara, Irene
I'm Alright - Loggins, Kenny
Wondering Where The Lions Are - Cockburn, Bruce
Take A Little Rhythm - Thomson, Ali
Rock With You - Jackson, Michael
Third Time Lucky (First Time I Was A Fool) - Foghat
Don't Do Me Like That - Petty, Tom And The Heartbreakers
Dreamer - Supertramp
I Wanna Be Your Lover - Prince
Another One Bites The Dust - Queen
This Is It - Loggins, Kenny
Lost In Love - Air Supply
Ride Like The Wind - Cross, Christopher
You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling - Hall, Daryl And John Oates
Against The Wind - Seger, Bob
Suddenly - Newton-John, Olivia and Cliff Richard
Steal Away - Dupree, Robbie
Sara - Fleetwood Mac
Too Hot - Kool And The Gang
I Love You - Climax Blues Band
You're The Only Woman (You & I) - Ambrosia
Just The Two Of Us - Washington, Grover Jr.
Here I Am (Just When I Thought I Was Over You) - Air Supply
Don't Ask Me Why - Joel, Billy
Rose, The - Midler, Bette
Escape (The Pińa Colada Song) - Holmes, Rupert
Late In The Evening - Simon, Paul
Celebration - Kool And The Gang
Crazy Little Thing Called Love - Queen
Lady (You Bring Me Up) - Commodores
Watching The Wheels - Lennon, John
I Missed Again - Collins, Phil
One That You Love, The - Air Supply
Precious To Me - Seymour, Phil
Pop Muzik - M
Who's Crying Now - Journey
Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic - Police
Theme From The Greatest American Hero (Believe It Or Not) - Scarbury, Joey
This Little Girl - Bonds, Gary U.S.
Start Me Up - Rolling Stones
All Those Years Ago - Harrison, George
Living Inside Myself - Vannelli, Gino
Hey Nineteen - Steely Dan
Cool Love - Pablo Cruise
Endless Love - Ross, Diana and Lionel Richie
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around - Nicks, Stevie with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
I Can't Stand It - Clapton, Eric
Kiss On My List - Hall, Daryl And John Oates
Woman - Lennon, John
Her Town Too - Taylor, James And J. D. Souther
Hearts - Balin, Marty
Take It On The Run - REO Speedwagon
Stroke, The - Squier, Billy
Morning Train (Nine To Five) - Easton, Sheena
Arthur's Theme (Best That You Can Do) - Cross, Christopher
Just Between You And Me - April Wine
Jessie's Girl - Springfield, Rick
Just Like Starting Over - Lennon, John
Best Of Times, The - Styx
Sweetheart - Franke And The Knockouts
Caught Up In You - Thirty-Eight Special
De Do Do Do De Da Da Da - Police
Hungry Heart - Springsteen, Bruce
While You See A Chance - Winwood, Steve
Night Owls, The - Little River Band
Private Eyes - Hall, Daryl And John Oates
Games People Play - Parsons, Alan Project
No Reply At All - Genesis
Winning - Santana
Turn Me Loose - Loverboy
Being With You - Robinson, Smokey
Every Woman In The World - Air Supply
Slow Hand - Pointer Sisters
Hearts On Fire - Meisner, Randy
Bette Davis Eyes - Carnes, Kim
Gemini Dream - Moody Blues
Don't Stop Believin' - Journey
In The Air Tonight - Collins, Phil
Keep On Loving You - REO Speedwagon
Really Wanna Know You - Wright, Gary
Gypsy - Fleetwood Mac
Heartlight - Diamond, Neil
Just Once - Jones, Quincy Featuring James Ingram
Why Do Fools Fall In Love - Ross, Diana
Shadows Of The Night - Benatar, Pat
Physical - Newton-John, Olivia
Cool Night - Davis, Paul
You Make My Dreams - Hall, Daryl And John Oates
What Kind Of Fool - Streisand, Barbra and Barry Gibb
Get Down On It - Kool And The Gang
For Your Eyes Only - Easton, Sheena
One Hundred Ways - Jones, Quincy Featuring James Ingram
I've Done Everything For You - Springfield, Rick
Steppin' Out - Jackson, Joe
That Girl - Wonder, Stevie
Key Largo - Higgins, Bertie
Vacation - Go-Go's
Up Where We Belong - Cocker, Joe And Jennifer Warnes
Take It Easy On Me - Little River Band
You Should Hear How She Talks About You - Manchester, Melissa
Even The Nights Are Better - Air Supply
Love Me Tomorrow - Chicago
Take It Away - McCartney, Paul
Gloria - Branigan, Laura
Freeze-Frame - Geils, J. Band
I Keep Forgettin' (Every Time You're Near) - McDonald, Michael
Southern Cross - Crosby Stills And Nash
Hurts So Good - Mellencamp, John Cougar
Tainted Love/Where Did Our Love Go - Soft Cell
Hold On Loosely - Thirty-Eight Special
Chariots Of Fire - Vangelis
Think I'm In Love - Money, Eddie
Somebody's Baby - Browne, Jackson
Leather And Lace - Nicks, Stevie and Don Henley
Eye Of The Tiger - Survivor
Hard To Say I'm Sorry - Chicago
Do You Believe In Love - Lewis, Huey And The News
Abracadabra - Miller, Steve
Empty Garden (Hey Hey Johnny) - John, Elton
Other Woman, The - Parker, Ray Jr.
Pressure - Joel, Billy
We Got The Beat - Go-Go's
Kids In America - Wilde, Kim
Eye In The Sky - Parsons, Alan Project
Open Arms - Journey
One You Love, The - Frey, Glenn
Turn Your Love Around - Benson, George
Ebony And Ivory - McCartney, Paul And Stevie Wonder
Mickey - Basil, Toni
Sweet Dreams - Air Supply
Shake It Up - Cars
Harden My Heart - Quarterflash
867-5309/Jenny - Tommy Tutone
Centerfold - Geils, J. Band
Hold Me - Fleetwood Mac
Heat Of The Moment - Asia
I.G.Y. (What A Wonderful World) - Fagen, Donald
Don't Talk To Strangers - Springfield, Rick
Who Can It Be Now? - Men At Work
You Can Do Magic - America
Waiting For A Girl Like You - Foreigner
I Can't Go For That (No Can Do) - Hall, Daryl And John Oates
Rock This Town - Stray Cats
It's Raining Again - Supertramp
Young Turks - Stewart, Rod
Truly - Richie, Lionel
Don't Fight It - Loggins, Kenny with Steve Perry
Jack And Diane - Mellencamp, John Cougar
Keep The Fire Burnin' - REO Speedwagon
Heartbreaker - Warwick, Dionne
Blue Eyes - John, Elton
Man On Your Mind - Little River Band
I Love Rock And Roll - Jett, Joan And The Blackhearts
Rosanna - Toto
Only The Lonely - Motels
I Ran (So Far Away) - Flock Of Seagulls
Spirits In The Material World - Police
Trouble - Buckingham, Lindsey
Don't You Want Me - Human League
It's A Mistake - Men At Work
All Right - Cross, Christopher
Straight From The Heart - Adams, Bryan
You Can't Hurry Love - Collins, Phil
Telefone (Long Distance Love Affair) - Easton, Sheena
Jeopardy - Kihn, Greg Band
Beat It - Jackson, Michael
Dirty Laundry - Henley, Don
Total Eclipse Of The Heart - Tyler, Bonnie
Overkill - Men At Work
Baby Come To Me - Austin, Patti With James Ingram
Synchronicity II - Police
Sexual Healing - Gaye, Marvin
I'm Still Standing - John, Elton
Heart To Heart - Loggins, Kenny
Burning Down The House - Talking Heads
Allentown - Joel, Billy
Family Man - Hall, Daryl And John Oates
Don't Let It End - Styx
King Of Pain - Police
Down Under - Men At Work
Don't Cry - Asia
Back On The Chain Gang - Pretenders
True - Spandau Ballet
Human Nature - Jackson, Michael
I Know There's Something Going On - Frida
Rock The Casbah - Clash
Cuts Like A Knife - Adams, Bryan
One Thing Leads To Another - Fixx
Nineteen Ninety-Nine - Prince
Safety Dance, The - Men Without Hats
Hungry Like The Wolf - Duran Duran
You Are - Richie, Lionel
Suddenly Last Summer - Motels
Let's Dance - Bowie, David
Africa - Toto
Stray Cat Strut - Stray Cats
Too Shy - Kajagoogoo
Your Love Is Driving Me Crazy - Hagar, Sammy
Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This) - Eurythmics
Come On Eileen - Dexy's Midnight Runners
Making Love Out Of Nothing At All - Air Supply
Big Log - Plant, Robert
Promises Promises - Naked Eyes
How Am I Supposed To Live Without You - Branigan, Laura
Electric Avenue - Grant, Eddy
I've Got A Rock And Roll Heart - Clapton, Eric
Our House - Madness
Take Me To Heart - Quarterflash
(Keep Feeling) Fascination - Human League
Solitaire - Branigan, Laura
Goody Two Shoes - Ant, Adam
Come Dancing - Kinks
Faithfully - Journey
Rock Of Ages - Def Leppard
Hot In The City - Idol, Billy
Flashdance (What A Feeling) - Cara, Irene
Always Something There To Remind Me - Naked Eyes
Der Kommissar - After The Fire
Do You Really Want To Hurt Me - Culture Club
Little Red Corvette - Prince
She Works Hard For The Money - Summer, Donna
Everybody Wants You - Squier, Billy
Heart And Soul - Lewis, Huey And The News
Maneater - Hall, Daryl And John Oates
Time (Clock Of The Heart) - Culture Club
Stand Back - Nicks, Stevie
Affair Of The Heart - Springfield, Rick
Modern Love - Bowie, David
Is There Something I Should Know - Duran Duran
Billie Jean - Jackson, Michael
I Won't Hold You Back - Toto
My Love - Richie, Lionel
We Two - Little River Band
Send Her My Love - Journey
Lawyers In Love - Browne, Jackson
Nobody Told Me - Lennon, John
Purple Rain - Prince
Cruel Summer - Bananarama
Innocent Man, An - Joel, Billy
I'm So Excited - Pointer Sisters
Break My Stride - Wilder, Matthew
Owner Of A Lonely Heart - Yes
I Want A New Drug - Lewis, Huey And The News
Thriller - Jackson, Michael
Sea Of Love - Honeydrippers
Love Somebody - Springfield, Rick
Almost Paradise - Wilson, Ann And Mike Reno
Crumblin' Down - Mellencamp, John Cougar
Hard Habit To Break - Chicago
Don't Answer Me - Parsons, Alan Project
Talking In Your Sleep - Romantics
Sister Christian - Night Ranger
I Guess That's Why They Call It The Blues - John, Elton
Reflex, The - Duran Duran
If Ever You're In My Arms Again - Bryson, Peabo
Like A Virgin - Madonna
Drive - Cars
Glamorous Life, The - Sheila E.
Cover Me - Springsteen, Bruce
Sunglasses At Night - Hart, Corey
Major Tom (Coming Home) - Schilling, Peter
Stuck On You - Richie, Lionel
Oh Sherrie - Perry, Steve
I Can Dream About You - Hartman, Dan
All Through The Night - Lauper, Cyndi
Better Be Good To Me - Turner, Tina
Some Guys Have All The Luck - Stewart, Rod
Against All Odds - Collins, Phil
Blue Jean - Bowie, David
Got A Hold On Me - McVie, Christine
Wrapped Around Your Finger - Police
Footloose - Loggins, Kenny
I Feel For You - Khan, Chaka
Say It Isn't So - Hall, Daryl And John Oates
No More Lonely Nights - McCartney, Paul
Love Is A Battlefield - Benatar, Pat
It's My Life - Talk Talk
When Doves Cry - Prince
Jump - Van Halen
Eyes Without A Face - Idol, Billy
Strut - Easton, Sheena
That's All - Genesis
Holiday - Madonna
Run To You - Adams, Bryan
Twist Of Fate - Newton-John, Olivia
Stay The Night - Chicago
State Of Shock - Jacksons
Heart Of Rock 'N' Roll, The - Lewis, Huey And The News
Let's Hear It For The Boy - Williams, Deniece
Dancing In The Dark - Springsteen, Bruce
Magic - Cars
Pink Houses - Mellencamp, John Cougar
Self Control - Branigan, Laura
Warrior, The - Scandal featuring Patty Smyth
Desert Moon - DeYoung, Dennis
Hold Me Now - Thompson Twins
Uptown Girl - Joel, Billy
On The Dark Side - Cafferty, John And The Beaver Brown Band
Jump (For My Love) - Pointer Sisters
Out Of Touch - Hall, Daryl And John Oates
Here Comes The Rain Again - Eurythmics
Politics Of Dancing, The - Re-Flex
Ghostbusters - Parker, Ray Jr.
Let The Music Play - Shannon
Missing You - Waite, John
Time After Time - Lauper, Cyndi
New Moon On Monday - Duran Duran
99 Luftballons - Nena
Running With The Night - Richie, Lionel
Modern Day Delilah - Stephenson, Van
I Just Called To Say I Love You - Wonder, Stevie
Panama - Van Halen
Hello - Richie, Lionel
Joanna - Kool And The Gang
I Can't Hold Back - Survivor
Dance Hall Days - Wang Chung
What's Love Got To Do With It - Turner, Tina
Rock Me Tonite - Squier, Billy
Caribbean Queen (No More Love On The Run) - Ocean, Billy
Sad Songs (Say So Much) - John, Elton
All Night Long (All Night) - Richie, Lionel
Middle Of The Road - Pretenders
If This Is It - Lewis, Huey And The News
Borderline - Madonna
Yah Mo B There - Ingram, James With Michael McDonald
Penny Lover - Richie, Lionel
Keeping The Faith - Joel, Billy
I'll Wait - Van Halen
Union Of The Snake - Duran Duran
Dancing In The Sheets - Shalamar
Raspberry Beret - Prince
It Ain't Enough - Hart, Corey
Sussudio - Collins, Phil
When You Close Your Eyes - Night Ranger
Get It On (Bang A Gong) - Power Station
They Don't Know - Ullman, Tracey
Into The Groove - Madonna
Photograph - Def Leppard
Heaven - Adams, Bryan
Careless Whisper - Wham!
We Built This City - Starship
We Don't Need Another Hero - Turner, Tina
Born In The U.S.A. - Springsteen, Bruce
Never - Heart
Along Comes A Woman - Chicago
Somebody - Adams, Bryan
Separate Lives - Collins, Phil and Marilyn Martin
Lonely Ol' Night - Mellencamp, John Cougar
Who's Zoomin' Who - Franklin, Aretha
Things Can Only Get Better - Jones, Howard
You Belong To The City - Frey, Glenn
You Might Think - Cars
Smooth Operator - Sade
Crazy For You - Madonna
Method Of Modern Love - Hall, Daryl And John Oates
View To A Kill, A - Duran Duran
Voices Carry - til Tuesday
You're Only Human (Second Wind) - Joel, Billy
Relax - Frankie Goes To Hollywood
You're The Inspiration - Chicago
Obsession - Animotion
Power Of Love, The - Lewis, Huey And The News
Shout - Tears For Fears
Pop Life - Prince
Part-Time Lover - Wonder, Stevie
Go Insane - Buckingham, Lindsey
Axel F - Faltermeyer, Harold
Money For Nothing - Dire Straits
Election Day - Arcadia
Everything She Wants - Wham!
Miami Vice Theme - Hammer, Jan
Saving All My Love For You - Houston, Whitney
California Girls - Roth, David Lee
Do What You Do - Jackson, Jermaine
What About Love - Heart
People Are People - Depeche Mode
Nightshift - Commodores
Dress You Up - Madonna
Rhythm Of The Night - DeBarge
Everytime You Go Away - Young, Paul
Don't Lose My Number - Collins, Phil
Fortress Around Your Heart - Sting
Some Like It Hot - Power Station
Lovin' Every Minute Of It - Loverboy
Summer of '69 - Adams, Bryan
I Want To Know What Love Is - Foreigner
You Spin Me Round (Like A Record) - Dead Or Alive
Boys Of Summer, The - Henley, Don
Neutron Dance - Pointer Sisters
Glory Days - Springsteen, Bruce
Old Man Down The Road, The - Fogerty, John
Search Is Over, The - Survivor
Don't You (Forget About Me) - Simple Minds
Fresh - Kool And The Gang
Everybody Wants To Rule The World - Tears For Fears
Hello Again - Cars
Dancing In The Street - Jagger, Mick and David Bowie
Would I Lie To You? - Eurythmics
Easy Lover - Bailey, Philip with Phil Collins
One Night In Bangkok - Head, Murray
Can't Fight This Feeling - REO Speedwagon
Freeway Of Love - Franklin, Aretha
Broken Wings - Mr. Mister
Private Dancer - Turner, Tina
All I Need - Wagner, Jack
Heat Is On, The - Frey, Glenn
Small Town - Mellencamp, John Cougar
One More Night - Collins, Phil
Say You Say Me - Richie, Lionel
Material Girl - Madonna
I'm On Fire - Springsteen, Bruce
Be Near Me - ABC
Wild Boys - Duran Duran
St. Elmo's Fire (Man In Motion) - Parr, John
Too Late For Goodbyes - Lennon, Julian
Dreams - Van Halen
What You Need - INXS
These Dreams - Heart
Life In A Northern Town - Dream Academy
All I Need Is A Miracle - Mike And The Mechanics
Dancing On The Ceiling - Richie, Lionel
Walk Of Life - Dire Straits
Manic Monday - Bangles
Higher Love - Winwood, Steve
Take On Me - aha
West End Girls - Pet Shop Boys
I Wanna Be A Cowboy - Boys Don't Cry
Don't Forget Me (When I'm Gone) - Glass Tiger
You Know I Love You...Don't You? - Jones, Howard
Take Me Home - Collins, Phil
Live To Tell - Madonna
Stuck With You - Lewis, Huey And The News
Nasty - Jackson, Janet
Rock Me Amadeus - Falco
Love Bizarre, A - Sheila E.
Glory Of Love - Cetera, Peter
Amanda - Boston
Take Me Home Tonight - Money, Eddie with Ronnie Spector
Take My Breath Away - Berlin
When The Going Gets Tough - Ocean, Billy
Love Touch - Stewart, Rod
Tonight She Comes - Cars
True Colors - Lauper, Cyndi
You Give Love A Bad Name - Bon Jovi
Kiss - Prince And The Revolution
Out Of Mind Out Of Sight - Models
It's Only Love - Adams, Bryan and Tina Turner
I Can't Wait - Nu Shooz
Alive And Kicking - Simple Minds
Sledgehammer - Gabriel, Peter
Be Good To Yourself - Journey
I'll Be Over You - Toto
Papa Don't Preach - Madonna
How Will I Know - Houston, Whitney
King For A Day - Thompson Twins
Kyrie - Mr. Mister
Nikita - John, Elton
Venus - Bananarama
Invisible Touch - Genesis
Let's Go All The Way - Sly Fox
Everybody Have Fun Tonight - Wang Chung
Something About You - Level 42
R.O.C.K. In The U.S.A. - Mellencamp, John Cougar
Notorious - Duran Duran
To Be A Lover - Idol, Billy
Holding Back The Years - Simply Red
Sweet Freedom - McDonald, Michael
This Could Be The Night - Loverboy
When I Think Of You - Jackson, Janet
Why Can't This Be Love - Van Halen
Human - Human League
Silent Running - Mike And The Mechanics
If You Leave - Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark
No One Is To Blame - Jones, Howard
Addicted To Love - Palmer, Robert
Throwing It All Away - Genesis
Walk Like An Egyptian - Bangles
Come On Let's Go - Los Lobos
Girls Girls Girls - Motley Crue
Don't Tell Me The Time - Davis, Martha
Your Love - Outfield
Who's That Girl - Madonna
My Hometown - Springsteen, Bruce
Mary's Prayer - Danny Wilson
Head To Toe - Lisa Lisa And Cult Jam
Don't Get Me Wrong - Pretenders
Good Times - INXS And Jimmy Barnes
Talk To Me - Nicks, Stevie
Your Wildest Dreams - Moody Blues
In Too Deep - Genesis
We'll Be Together - Sting
I'm Your Man - Wham!
La Bamba - Los Lobos
I Want Your Sex - Michael, George
You Keep Me Hangin' On - Wilde, Kim
(I Just) Died In Your Arms - Cutting Crew
Kiss Him Goodbye - Nylons
Should've Known Better - Marx, Richard
Who Will You Run To - Heart
You Gotta Fight For Your Right (To Party!) - Beastie Boys
C'est La Vie - Nevil, Robbie
Tonight Tonight Tonight - Genesis
I Heard A Rumor - Bananarama
Cry - Godley And Creme
Shakedown - Seger, Bob
Crazy - Icehouse
Wanted Dead Or Alive - Bon Jovi
I Knew You Were Waiting (For Me) - Franklin, Aretha And George Michael
(I've Had) The Time Of My Life - Medley, Bill & Jennifer Warnes
Mony Mony (Live) - Idol, Billy
Don't Dream It's Over - Crowded House
Way It Is, The - Hornsby, Bruce And The Range
Heart And Soul - T'Pau
Ballerina Girl - Richie, Lionel
I'll Be Alright Without You - Journey
Keep Your Hands To Yourself - Georgia Satellites
Hazy Shade Of Winter - Bangles
Lean On Me - Club Nouveau
La Isla Bonita - Madonna
I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For - U2
I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me) - Houston, Whitney
Final Countdown, The - Europe
Land Of Confusion - Genesis
Meet Me Half Way - Loggins, Kenny
Livin' On A Prayer - Bon Jovi
Heaven Is A Place On Earth - Carlisle, Belinda
I Just Can't Stop Loving You - Jackson, Michael With Siedah Garrett
Finer Things, The - Winwood, Steve
Talk Dirty To Me - Poison
Lost In Emotion - Lisa Lisa And Cult Jam
Shake You Down - Abbott, Gregory
Jungle Boy - Eddie, John
Looking For A New Love - Watley, Jody
Just To See Her - Robinson, Smokey
Someday - Glass Tiger
Walking Down Your Street - Bangles
Lady In Red, The - DeBurgh, Chris
Midnight Blue - Gramm, Lou
Rag Doll - Aerosmith
Control - Jackson, Janet
Stop To Love - Vandross, Luther
Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now - Starship
U Got The Look - Prince
Doing It All For My Baby - Lewis, Huey And The News
When Smokey Sings - ABC
Will You Still Love Me? - Chicago
Rock Steady - Whispers
With Or Without You - U2
Alone - Heart
Little Lies - Fleetwood Mac
Brand New Lover - Dead Or Alive
Stay The Night - Orr, Benjamin
Don't Mean Nothing - Marx, Richard
Too Much Ain't Enough Love - Barnes, Jimmy
How Can I Fall - Breathe
What's On Your Mind (Pure Energy) - Information Society
I Get Weak - Carlisle, Belinda
Waiting For A Star To Fall - Boy Meets Girl
Welcome To The Jungle - Guns 'n' Roses
Don't Be Cruel - Brown, Bobby
Never Tear Us Apart - INXS
Dreaming - Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark
Flame, The - Cheap Trick
Don't You Know What The Night Can Do - Winwood, Steve
Got My Mind Set On You - Harrison, George
Wishing Well - D'Arby, Terence Trent
It Would Take A Strong Strong Man - Astley, Rick
Sweet Child O' Mine - Guns 'n' Roses
One Good Woman - Cetera, Peter
She's Like The Wind - Swayze, Patrick
Kiss - Art Of Noise (Featuring Tom Jones)
Another Part Of Me - Jackson, Michael
Chains Of Love - Erasure
Need You Tonight - INXS
Valley Road, The - Hornsby, Bruce And The Range
Love Bites - Def Leppard
Angel - Aerosmith
Something So Strong - Crowded House
Tunnel Of Love - Springsteen, Bruce
Red Red Wine - UB40
Nothin' But A Good Time - Poison
Hold On To The Nights - Marx, Richard
Is This Love - Whitesnake
When It's Love - Van Halen
Sign Your Name - D'Arby, Terence Trent
Everywhere - Fleetwood Mac
Way You Make Me Feel, The - Jackson, Michael
Kokomo - Beach Boys
Edge Of A Broken Heart - Vixen
Electric Blue - Icehouse
Wild Wild West - Escape Club
Bad Medicine - Bon Jovi
Tell It To My Heart - Dayne, Taylor
Together Forever - Astley, Rick
Forever Young - Stewart, Rod
Word In Spanish, A - John, Elton
Always On My Mind - Pet Shop Boys
Hands To Heaven - Breathe
Desire - U2
I Found Someone - Cher
Perfect World - Lewis, Huey And The News
Simply Irresistible - Palmer, Robert
Endless Summer Nights - Marx, Richard
Faith - Michael, George
Just Like Paradise - Roth, David Lee
Devil Inside - INXS
Look Away - Chicago
Loco-Motion, The - Minogue, Kylie
I Don't Wanna Go On With You Like That - John, Elton
Don't Be Cruel - Cheap Trick
Kiss Me Deadly - Ford, Lita
Be Still My Beating Heart - Sting
Dream World - Midnight Oil
Walk On Water - Money, Eddie
What About Me - Moving Pictures
Circle In The Sand - Carlisle, Belinda
Groovy Kind Of Love, A - Collins, Phil
Hungry Eyes - Carmen, Eric
Roll With It - Winwood, Steve
Never Gonna Give You Up - Astley, Rick
Get Outta My Dreams, Get Into My Car - Ocean, Billy
Pink Cadillac - Cole, Natalie
One More Try - Michael, George
I Don't Want To Live Without You - Foreigner
Dude (Looks Like A Lady) - Aerosmith
Every Rose Has Its Thorn - Poison
Candle In The Wind - John, Elton
Pour Some Sugar On Me - Def Leppard
Make Me Lose Control - Carmen, Eric
Hippy Hippy Shake - Georgia Satellites
Nathan Jones - Bananarama
You're Not Alone - Chicago
When The Children Cry - White Lion
Cherish - Madonna
Two Strong Hearts - Farnham, John
Born To Be My Baby - Bon Jovi
Man In The Mirror - Jackson, Michael
In Your Eyes - Gabriel, Peter
New Sensation (edit of 12") - INXS
Walk The Dinosaur - Was (Not Was)
Best, The - Turner, Tina
I Don't Want Your Love - Duran Duran
Don't Shed A Tear - Carrack, Paul
Baby I Love Your Way/Freebird Medley (Free Baby) - Will To Power
Walking Away - Information Society
Downtown - One Two Many
Angel Of Harlem - U2
If I Could Turn Back Time - Cher
Love In An Elevator - Aerosmith
With Every Beat Of My Heart - Dayne, Taylor
Higher Ground - Red Hot Chili Peppers
Love Song - Cure
Cold Hearted - Abdul, Paula
Living Years, The - Mike And The Mechanics
She Drives Me Crazy - Fine Young Cannibals
End Of The Line - Traveling Wilburys
I Beg Your Pardon - Kon Kan
Listen To Your Heart - Roxette
Satisfied - Marx, Richard
Open All Night - Georgia Satellites
After All - Cher and Peter Cetera
Coming Home - Cinderella
Oh Daddy - Belew, Adrian
Cry - Waterfront
Like A Prayer - Madonna
End Of The Innocence, The - Henley, Don
Little Respect, A - Erasure
Put A Little Love In Your Heart - Lennox, Annie and Al Green
Your Mama Don't Dance - Poison
Love Shack - B-52's
Everlasting Love - Jones, Howard
Doctor, The - Doobie Brothers
Angel Eyes - Healey, Jeff Band
She Wants To Dance With Me - Astley, Rick
Miss You Like Crazy - Cole, Natalie
Patience - Guns 'n' Roses
We Didn't Start The Fire - Joel, Billy
Express Yourself - Madonna
Another Day In Paradise - Collins, Phil
Rhythm Nation - Jackson, Janet
Praying To New God - Wang Chung
Don't Look Back - Fine Young Cannibals
Lay Your Hands On Me - Bon Jovi
Forever Your Girl - Abdul, Paula
Wind Beneath My Wings - Midler, Bette
Stand - R.E.M.
In Your Room - Bangles
Sowing The Seeds Of Love - Tears For Fears
Rocket - Def Leppard
Janie's Got A Gun - Aerosmith
When The Night Comes - Cocker, Joe
When I See You Smile - Bad English
Toy Soldiers - Martika
Eighteen And Life - Skid Row
Rock Wit'cha - Brown, Bobby
Holding On - Winwood, Steve
Miss You Much - Jackson, Janet
Good Thing - Fine Young Cannibals
You Got It - Orbison, Roy
So Alive - Love And Rockets
Voices Of Babylon - Outfield
Heaven - Warrant
Look, The - Roxette
Right Here Waiting - Marx, Richard
Straight Up - Abdul, Paula
Just Between You And Me - Gramm, Lou

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Although I'm not familiar with this particular set, there are/were many radio-only music libraries with similar track lists. I happen to own a collection from TM Century, which is one of the largest providers of broadcast material (music libraries, jingles, production music, etc).

I know in the case of TM Century, they did some vinyl transfers and a TON of homemade edits to get the "hit" versions. BEWARE! I've spent countless hours going through the homemade edits on TM's library (even the newer, revised versions of the discs), and there are countless examples of careless mistakes. I'd be willing to bet that more than 75% of the homemade edits on TM's library are incorrect.

Does Michael Jackson's "Human Nature" run 3:45 and have an extra synth at 1:58? The hit 45 version of this one is edited and has a synth overdub that the LP doesn't have. Does "Thriller" have the rapless ending like on the 45? Does "Another Part Of Me" have the 45 remix or is it the same mix as the LP?

Does Janet Jackson's "Nasty" run 3:44 like the 45? Is Hall & Oates "I Can't Go For That" the hit 45 remix or is it the LP edit? Does Marvin Gaye's "Sexual Healing" run 4:07 like the 45, or is it the shorter 3:59 LP version?

Be careful in assuming you have the "hit" versions of all these songs until you've investigated their homemade edits. Many of these companies did a rush job of putting them together, and didn't take extra care to get it exactly right. I've even found instances on my TM discs where the song appears to be correct (i.e. it has the correct run time and correct sections edited out), but when doing a careful comparison to the actual vinyl 45, I found that the edit point was off by a measure or two. For example, "Lucky Star" on their disc is the same length as the 45, but the intro is not edited the same way as the 45. Someone put the edit point in the wrong spot.

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AaronK - Thanks for responding! Interesting!

I've wondered about the TM Century collections; my only firsthand experience with them was a Golddisc 3 sampler that I got when I was at my college station. "Nothing else sounds as good as Dolddisc 3." ("NoNoise"?? Ack!!)

I, too, have spent many an hour dissecting the A-List tracks. Overall, I'm pretty pleased with the edits, although there are a few clunkers: Billy Ocean's "When The Going Gets Tough" is maimed, Peter Gabriel's "Sledgehammer" is a shorter edit that cuts off the whistly intro and the mumbling, going straight from the horns into the first verse, M's "Pop Muzik" is the LP version, U2's "Desire" is an odd remix (the 12"?), Adam Ant's "Goody Two Shoes" is the right length but a strange mix, and so forth.

A few early-to-mid '80s tracks taken from vinyl: 45 versions of "You Spin Me Round", "I Wanna Be A Cowboy", "Along Comes A Woman", the 2 Naked Eyes hits, "Key Largo", "Turn Me Loose", and a few others.

The Madonna tracks sound like the 45 versions (unlike "The Immaculate Collection"), although I haven't done A/B comparisons with the 45s. Same with the Janet Jackson tracks. These all sound pretty clean, like they were taken from CD sources, although I can't figure out from where.

On the whole, though, they did a decent job of versions that would appeal to programmers. I'm not sure about "I Can't Go For That" or "Sexual Healing" - we music geeks would know which is which but I don't think the average listener would. "Thriller" is the LP version, which is really the only one I heard on the air back then. "The Safety Dance" is the 45 version, taken from vinyl. I'd prefer the LP version of "Turn Me Loose", but I just like talking over a 60-second intro. They gave me the medley of "Tainted Love/Where Did Our Love Go", taken from vinyl. (I have a decent copy of that on a promo-only CMJ 1979-1989 sampler, but that's the only place I've ever seen it.)

I've been comparing the A List tracks to some reputable compilation CDs (Rhino, Time-Life, Razor & Tie...) and noticed that virtually all the tracks are a tiny bit faster or slower than the commercially-available versions. Very tiny differences - maybe +/- 0.1% or 0.2% in pitch and BPM. I was just surprised that there was a difference at all! If I were compiling tracks for a similar collection, I would have raided the well-mastered CD first, and turned to other sources only when I had to. It's odd that I can't find any other tracks on any other CDs that match the A-List tracks exactly.

Just wanted to compare notes with anyone else who'd had experience with the radio-only collections. Or someone who knew where the source material came from for the hard-to-find tracks.

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You're absolutely right about TM doing "homemade" edits. A former co-worker did several edits for them when he was working in Houston, back in the 80's. I wouldn't be surprised if they're using those same edits today...

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They are. I've heard even their most recent GoldDisc releases with incorrect edits. Thankfully, by about 1990, everything was on promo CD, so they no longer had to edit down LP versions or transfer vinyl. It's really only the pre-1990 stuff you have to wonder about.

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He once told me a bunch of the titles he had done TM edits for, but the only one I can recall was "Miracles" by Jefferson Starship. I only remember that because he said their only parameters for the edit were that it had to be a certain length and the line "when I went down on you" had to be removed. I realize it's anecdotal evidence, but from that I gathered Century 21/TM/TM Century was more bothered about the length of any edits they commissioned rather than those edits matching *any* versions released by the respective label.

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I have the "A List" collection too. All 50 CDs, which I purchased back in 2001. I can safely say that it was one of the best purchases I've ever made. Sure there are some drawbacks ("Every Breath You Take" by the Police is not there, yet they include "Open All Night" by the Georgia Satellites), but I love how the music goes in (more or less) chronological order. It makes for a great trip down memory lane when you are listening to one CD after the other.

And yes, the 45 mixes and radio edits included here are priceless to have and many are not found anywhere else.

Unfortunately the collection is no longer available from the place I got it (Radio Mall) but since you weren't able to purchase it unless you were in radio, most people couldn't get it anyway. I sure am glad I got mine when I could.

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I sometimes regret posting all the song titles and artists in the first post from this thread. That big listing makes this thread show up in the search results for just about every big hit from the '80s.

In any case, after scanning one hundred images and typing endlessly, I finally got the whole series entered into Discogs. The times posted on Discogs are the full track durations, including outro silence.

I spot-checked a whole bunch of the tracks, and determined they they're all based on masterings from the TM Century library.

Specifically, the A List tracks use an additional analog mastering step, at which the TM Century tracks were played with a D/A converter and re-digitized using an A/D converter that was not synchronized to the D/A converter. In practical terms, this means that all of the A List tracks all sound exactly like the TM Century tracks (same edits/mixes/EQ), but won't stay in perfect synchronization with them in a multi-track editor.

I know that this collection is absurdly rare, so the odds of your finding one are pretty slim. I myself have only seen one out in the wild, and that sighting is what inspired me to buy the set that I have. If nothing else, you can see the actual discs and artwork for the full set. It'll help demystify the collection, which has turned up in lists in plenty of my posts over the years.

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crapfromthepast wrote:

Specifically, the A List tracks use an additional analog mastering step, at which the TM Century tracks were played with a D/A converter and re-digitized using an A/D converter that was not
synchronized to the D/A converter. In practical terms, this means that all of the A List tracks all sound exactly like the TM Century tracks (same edits/mixes/EQ), but won't stay in perfect
synchronization with them in a multi-track editor.

My first thought was could this have been done intentionally to try and throw copyright police off the scent of exact duplication?

Since I have never encountered these discs in the wild, I wonder if they are considered legitimate promos?(Meaning, did they have TM's permission to use the sources?)

I have zero experience in copyright law, so I can only wonder at this point if there were more small companies that used these TM Century discs as sources. I'll admit,
that back in the days of mobile DJing, it was a chore to assemble a respectable set of music that didn't break your back either physically or financially.

There were more of these companies that I discovered long after getting out of the business. ERG Nu music and Platinum Series were just two I could think of off the top of
my head. Always listing their music as "Radio Promos" yet also selling to mobile DJs through the mail. Heck, even I had a sub to TM Century's HitDisc series as a DJ.

I suppose the upshot of my question deals with the idea that if you said you were producing "Promos" that were not for sale to the general public, did record companies
more or less just turn a blind eye to these small companies? I wonder if there really was any real bucks made on these sets from the production side?

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TM wasn't paying any copyrights, at least not back in the days when they started. Basically, it was understood that the promo record pools were helping to get music to small markets where the record labels weren't sending promos directly. "Gold" material was a bit more gray, but my guess is that the labels didn't want to say "no" to this when TM was doing such a stellar job in getting their new releases in the hands of thousands of programmers who otherwise would've never received original promo CDs from the labels.

So, no, they did not need permission from TM to use their discs as sources. It's well documented here on the board by Ron that even store-bought compilations use other previously available digital (CD) sources in many cases, and that's certainly the same story here. TM rarely, if ever, had access to master tape sources like a legitimately licensed CD would have. TM simply found the best source available, ran it through "No Noise" and put it on their disc, sometimes attempting to replicate a 45 edit in the process.

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I remember Promo Only back in the day getting "in
trouble" for their Platinum Series.

I did a quick google search and found this interesting
article from 1998 which addresses the copyright
questions/violations. While it doesn't reference TM or
The A-List series, it does talk about Promo Only's
Platinum series and the DJ Tools series.

https://www.stereophile.com/news/10208/index.html

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Way back, I had the DJ Tools set and sold them when the
Mobile Beat Top 200 series became available that was
through TM Century. TM eventually, as you might expect,
pulled that series after Vol. 1 and Vol. 2, Bootscootin'
(which was the best of Country) and The Mobile Beat Best Of
Dance. There was a Vol. 3 that never was released.

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I was subscribed to the HitDisc series back when those Top 200's were released by TM Century. They had included a lot of the information about them in the billing pages.
I never knew they had a third set in the works. I did discover later on that a certain set of GoldDiscs had the identical tracks as the Top 200 series. I'm not sure which
ones those were, or if the GoldDiscs covered the whole 24 disc set. It sure seems that they somehow dodged the bullet in that series of investigations. I'm sure there
were a number of greased palms over that before they stopped the service.

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Nice work! Thanks for putting that into Discogs with
pics. Too bad there wasn't one for soul.

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Fetta wrote:

I remember Promo Only back in the day getting "in trouble" for their Platinum Series.

Yep, and I'd be there would've been no trouble at all if they had compiled and marketed it exclusively for radio. The issue was that they were selling to individuals, which the labels said was a no-no.

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I got an email from a reader on the board. I'm not sure if he posts here or not, so I'll keep it anonymous for now:

Quote:

I have read the last post of you about the A List and I can explain something. One giveaway is the release date, 1994, another the company location, the last is the "extra analog step". Why that last one?

Keep in mind we're into the timeframe when the so-called digital loophole allowed in several EEC countries the proliferation of small labels that released a ton and half of Live CDs that until 1980 would be called "bootlegs". These were NOT "gray area" releases during that time in EEC, it was forbidden the import in the US but these were perfectly legit in EEC.

Said that, how to explain the extra analog step?

Back in 1993 I had the task of doing a private run of CD for a company, so I was put in contact with a guy in Rome that was doing digital premastering for replication for artists or small labels. Basically this guy was doing something that in few years would be commonplace and dirt cheap, but it wasn't so in 1993: recording a CD that would be used for a straight copy replication.

His studio wasn't big, but had three reel-to-reel decks (one Studer A80), a pair of turntables, cassette decks, two CD players and a Teac CD recorder. It was fairly new stuff and blank CD-R discs were 4 times the cost of a regular release, so the idea of "cheap copy" wasn't real in 1993.

Also, digital audio extraction as we're used now simply wasn't there in 1993; early CD-ROM 1x or 2x max weren't reliable for that task and it would need a few more years to have something that would be accurate.

Moreover, technically it was possible to link a stereo CD player and a stereo CD recorder with a digital coax, but in that case will enter into play the SCMS that already was killing the DAT: the copy would be playable, but you could not make a copy of a copy, so the replication plant would not accept such a disk with the SCMS flag on.

The only way out for that was going analog: analog playback from the player, analog recording for the recorder, resulting disk marked as original, replication possible.

Another giveaway for that type of mastering is the running time: I've sampled some of the disc in Discogs and no one goes over 63 min., which was the mandatory format of CD-R if you wanted to do replication from CD-R. Mind you, 74 min. blanks were available (my project involved 74 min. blanks) but replications refused these because there were more prone to errors than 63 min. discs, since these had the groove spiral wider than 74 min. discs.

Please keep in mind this was in the very early stages of the CD-R technology.

Said that, the EEC reference in the tray card suggest a disguise for a real US origin of these discs; also the disc label that shows NO tracklist is another giveaway that these people were moving thru quicksands since such a release, even if marked promo etc, would have been illegal anywhere, and a printed tracklist would raise some eyebrows on pressing plants.

Hope you enjoyed a lil' bit of history...

Great details here!

My two big takeaways:

(1) The extra analog step was to overcome digital copy protection, which would have been present on a digital copy of the TM Century tracks.

(2) The mastering was done to 63-minute CD-R discs. (I'd kinda forgotten that those even existed. Most were 74-minute length.)

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Great post. We have come so far over the years. I really
forgot about the analog to analog trick to defeat copy
protection. I forgot how much of a factor copy protection
was in the demise of DCC and DAT. Plus totally forgot 63
minute CDRs. Almost forgot 74 min CDRs. Anyhow a great
post above . Thanks

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I remember the 63 minute CDRs. I was almost in the market for a Pioneer player/recorder. They had some kind of stable platter method which, as I recall, was simply a disc
platter that was solid. I think you had to load the discs in upside down too. I never did get one though. I was already too heavily invested in the CDJ-500g's top loading
player that had pitch bend along with the earliest ever Master Tempo function that I knew of. I still have them both and they work well.

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C J Brown wrote:

Plus totally forgot 63
minute CDRs. Almost forgot 74 min CDRs. Anyhow a great
post above . Thanks

And let's not forget "music" CD-Rs for consumer
component CD recorders (which wouldn't accept standard
CD-R discs, though "pro" models would).

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I think The A List series had something to do with (or was
compiled and marketed by) a radio DJ/announcer in
Minneapolis named Dave Dworkin.

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