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Todd Ireland 
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 Posted: 18 March 2005 at 5:17pm |
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Oops, I meant to say "alternate version", not "alternate take". And again I can't say for certain if I ever heard this version on the radio, so for now it's probably best to just assume I haven't.
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aaronk
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Posted: 28 June 2005 at 2:36am |
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Thanks for the info on "Toy Soldiers," EdisonLite. I did want to make one minor correction: The so-called "edit" on Billboard Top Hits 1989 could have just been someone cutting off the intro. If you listen to the version on that CD, you'll notice that the intro music is only one measure long (four seconds). The version that has the acapella intro has two measures from the time the music kicks in until the first verse starts. The word "soldiers" only overlaps with that first measure of music.
The question remains...which CDs contain the "remixed" single version (including the intro), and which contain the LP version? |
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aaronk
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Posted: 28 June 2005 at 2:53am |
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P.S. The easiest way I can tell which is the remix and which is the LP version (since there's not any added instrumentation) is that right before the chorus, when the kids sing "won't you come out and play with me," there is an electronic hand clap that has quite a bit of reverb on the remixed version. The LP version has very little reverb on that hand clap. Also the music right after the acapella intro sounds quite a bit different, but I can't describe the difference in writing.
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Brian W.
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Posted: 19 May 2006 at 1:10am |
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I found the 45 version of "Toy Soldiers" on a commercial CD, albeit an OOP UK import. It's on a 1993 Martika CD called "Twelve Inch Mixes, a collection of extended remixes of her songs, and they refer to Toy Soldiers as "Special Version." Liner notes say it was remixed by Humberto Gatica, and Aaron's description matches what I'm hearing. Actual running time is 4:52.
It's not all THAT rare, and accordingly shouldn't go for a whole lot of money... I just got mine on Ebay for about five bucks U.S. The shipping from the UK was more than the CD was. Edited by Brian W. |
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aaronk
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Posted: 19 May 2006 at 8:53am |
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Good info, Brian!
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elcoleccionista
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Posted: 19 May 2006 at 10:03am |
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I looked for the Gatica remix for a while. Last year I saw the 2 track promo CD on Ebay but missed it. Until I finally came across the 12" Mixes CD, and Brian is correct, it can easily be found on Ebay, and rarely fetches more than US$15 if that much.
If it helps, another way to easily tell album version from the remix, is at the very end, after the last sung section "...like toy soldiers..". On Gatica's remix the drumstick sound kicks in a few seconds later than on the album version, where it comes in right after. |
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JMD1961
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Posted: 02 July 2007 at 6:25pm |
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I have this track on a Canadian various artists compilation titled "Lady Power" (Quality Records QRSPD-1124 [1991]). It times out at 4:43 in Acoustica. I've tried listening to determine (based on all the previous information) which mix I have, but just can't tell. Is anybody else familiar with this CD who might help me out?
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edtop40
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Posted: 02 July 2007 at 7:42pm |
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i found the true 45 version on the 3" import cd single...
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Posted: 07 November 2007 at 9:38am |
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Here is the info from my promo CD single (CSK 1563). Directly under Cut 1's title, it does specifically say "Produced by Michael Jay; Mixed by Humberto Gatica for Hum, Inc. Productions". And directly under Cut 2's title, it does specifically say "Produced by Michael Jay; engineered and mixed by Michael McDonald".
1-(Single Version) (listed 4:52; actual 4:51) 2-(LP Version) (listed 4:52; actual 4:47) |
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eriejwg
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Posted: 07 November 2007 at 12:07pm |
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Is the Japanese version listed in the database the 45 or LP mix?
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