Lionel Richie - "Running With The Night"

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   Two different promo 45s here: The first, the common listed and actual (4:05) version (1710-MF-A-66945-15A); then the second, which states "Special Reservice For New Edit". Listed and actual time is (4:07). (1710-MF-A-66945-RE1). I noticed there are 2 or 3 different times where it sounds like an loud atomic bomb is being dropped, all during the last 30 or so seconds of this mix - definitely much busier during the final, approx. 1:00 instrumental ending. I noticed Pat lists 3 "neither the 45 nor LP version" entries for versions in this (4:07)-ish range. If I were a betting man, I might bet that those CDs include this 2nd-issued-promo-45 version, with the "nukes" near the end.

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jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Lionel Richie - "Running With The Night" Posted: 28 May 2006 at 4:30am
	Two different promo 45s here: The first, the common listed and actual (4:05) version (1710-MF-A-66945-15A); then the second, which states "Special Reservice For New Edit". Listed and actual time is (4:07). (1710-MF-A-66945-RE1). I noticed there are 2 or 3 different times where it sounds like an loud atomic bomb is being dropped, all during the last 30 or so seconds of this mix - definitely much busier during the final, approx. 1:00 instrumental ending. I noticed Pat lists 3 "neither the 45 nor LP version" entries for versions in this (4:07)-ish range. If I were a betting man, I might bet that those CDs include this 2nd-issued-promo-45 version, with the "nukes" near the end. Edited by jimct

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 May 2006 at 7:11am
	jim, always informative and interesting reading.........thank you for your unique input.....
	edtop40

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 138	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 May 2006 at 7:31am
	Jim, I just checked my Definitive Collection CD, and your description matches what I am hearing. Essentially, the version on this disc is the commercial 45 version, except there is an edit at (3:29) which jumps to a different section of the guitar solo. The guitar solo ends at (3:50) and then there's the "atomic bomb" sound effects right before the fade out. When we discussed this in another thread some time ago, we thought Motown had goofed because they also made a mistake on "All Night Long." There is an edit that is messed up on the intro at (0:13), as far as I can tell.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 138	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 May 2006 at 7:36am
	You know, I just revisited "All Night Long," and it appears that the horn bridge in the middle is different on Definitive Collection, too, at (2:46). Unless there was another edit of this one, too, "All Night Long" deserves a "neither the 45 or LP version" comment.

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 May 2006 at 2:23pm
	Very interesting new info here... So does this mean then that the commercial 45 version of "Running with the Night" has never appeared on CD? Jim, if you or anyone on this board would like me to e-mail an mp3 of the version on the Definitive Collection CD to compare to the special DJ 45 edit and verify if the two are indeed identical, let me know.

jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 May 2006 at 2:46pm
	Even before I started this thread, my belief was that the commercial 45 version had never appeared on CD. I still think that is the case.

Grant Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 12 October 2004 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Grant Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 May 2006 at 2:50pm
	Aw great. Yet, another needle drop I have to do.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 138	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 May 2006 at 3:46pm
	Grant, re-creating the commercial 45 version for "Running With The Night" is simple. 1) Take the version from Definitive Collection and the full length LP version to start. 2) Where Definitive makes an edit at (3:30), tack on the audio from the LP version that was edited out. (In other words, there is no edit on the commercial version in that spot.) 3) Fade the remaining audio to (4:05). Edited by aaronk

sriv94 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote sriv94 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 May 2006 at 4:00pm
	When the subject was broached awhile back, I tried doing that with the LP version (making the one edit in the right spot and then fading). The resulting mix sounded a little hot to me. Are the 45 and LP the same mix?
	Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 138	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 May 2006 at 4:31pm
	Yes, they are the same mix; however, due to differences in mastering, you may have to tinker with the volume levels and EQ to match them up.