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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 57 |
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Covered by both the Beatles and the Carpenters! The only other Carpenters/Beatles overlap I can think of in the time it takes me to type this sentence is "Ticket To Ride". (And "Calling Occupants" if you really need to dive into the Klaatu rabbit hole.)
Mono version This was the hit. The 45 was in mono (as were all 45s in 1961), and ran 2:27. It's hard to say which CD included the song first, but I'm going to vote for Motown's Compact Command Performances (1986). This Motown series of single-artist discs is generally acknowledged to be the first batch of single-artist CDs from the legacy Motown acts. The same analog transfer is used on:
Stereo versions It turns out that the 45 is edited from the full performance of the song, with 32 beats being deleted at about the 1:59 mark (in Hitsville). Those deleted 32 beats include the lines "Don't pass me by/You see the tears in my eyes", which don't appear anywhere in the mono version of the song. The full performance runs 3:02, and is available in a 2005 stereo remix by Tom Moulton (yes, the same Tom Moulton who essentially invented the 12" single in the mid-'70s!) on Shout Factory's 4-CD The Motown Box (2005). Thanks to DC's research on the Both Sides Now website, we know that the song first appeared in stereo in 1966 (five years after it was a hit) on the Marvelettes' Greatest Hits LP (released Feb 1966), then on the stereo issue of Motown's multi-artist A Package Of Original 16 Big Hits (released Aug 1966 in stereo; the LP was released in mono in 1963). This 1966 stereo mix didn't edit out the 32 beats at 1:59, so the lines "Don't pass me by/You see the tears in my eyes" appear at about 2:11 where one would expect "Deliver, D-letter, the sooner, D-better", then the song fades before reaching the actual "D-letter" line in the performance. The 1989 CD issue of A Package Of Original 16 Big Hits runs 2:20, but I don't know if that's the same version that was released in 1966. I have a stereo version running about 2:30 on Silver Eagle's 3-CD Motown 25th Anniversary (copyright 1983; one of the worst-sounding CDs I own) and Heartland/Warner Special Products' 2-CD Real Rock (1987; better, but still sounds terrible). It has the lines "Don't pass me by/You see the tears in my eyes" at about 2:11. I don't know where this version comes from. There's another modern-day remix on Motown's Marvelettes collection Best Of: 20th Century Masters - The Millennium Collection (2000). It's mastered by Suha Gur; unclear who remixed the song, and unclear if this version originally appeared on this CD or elsewhere. This version runs 2:27, and includes the proper edit so that the lines "Deliver, D-letter, the sooner, D-better" appear at about 2:11 and match the mono version. Hopefully others can clarify any of the stereo-version info here. I haven't dug too deeply into stereo versions of early-'60s songs, but I sense that every big hit out there will have its own rat's nest to untangle. Bleh. Edited by crapfromthepast |
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LunarLaugh ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 February 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11 |
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I assumed the mix appearing on 20th Century Masters was
done by either Suha Gur or Kevin Reeves as those seem to be the two names that pop up the most on the Universal/Motown releases and reissues from 2000 onward. |
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davidclark ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Online Points: 27 |
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The stereo edit from "Best Of: 20th Century Masters - The Millennium
Collection" (the first issue of this edit AFAIK) is close to the 45, however it has a different edit for the word "better" in the line "you better wait" at 2:00. Someone sent me a corrected stereo 45 version back in 2012 (can't recall who). |
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LunarLaugh ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 February 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11 |
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Just adding that the stereo mix found on the 20th Century
Masters set also appears on UTV's Pure 60s CD from 2002. The EQ is slightly different and I actually prefer how it sounds there for this particular mix (mastered by Doug Schwartz who's one of my favorites). Edited by LunarLaugh |
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AutumnAarilyn ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 22 August 2019 Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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Hip-o-select's Forever and Forever more box sets sum up
their albums rather nicely and worth checking out. Mono versions of albums, stereo versions on greatest hits comps, extended versions, UK alternates, and a lost and found disc which was not included with that series of other Motown artists. It baffles me why someone would go looking on say the Motown 9000 sampler series for said track when you have all you'd ever want on this two box sets which include 7 discs on just the Marvelettes. What you can buy at a retail store became less and less relevant in the early 00's. |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 57 |
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It's true that the Forever and Forever More sets are thorough, but the current prices for these sets used on Discogs, are about $60 and $25, respectively.
That's much more than I'm willing to pay for a group that was served extremely well by the superb two-CD Motown set Deliver: The Singles 1961-1971 (1993), which currently sells for about $14 used on Discogs, and is one that I already have. Most of us here on the board already have truckloads of CDs. I myself am not too eager to buy much more than I've already amassed. I'd be curious about which version is on a disc that I already own. |
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AutumnAarilyn ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 22 August 2019 Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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I'm reading your book; I'm up to the third chapter.
Interesting read. Edited by AutumnAarilyn |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 57 |
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Glad you like it! Spoiler: the later chapters include LOTS of lists of songs. |
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C J Brown ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 27 December 2007 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Alert Alert to Crap From The Past.
What book? I must have been dozing as I have totally missed anything about a book from you. |
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PopArchivist ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 June 2018 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 29 |
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/1547272570 Ron isn't much for self promotion... |
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Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD."
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