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    Posted: 25 February 2017 at 3:26pm
A nice rhythm-box soul hit from 1974, and the first taste of success for the guys who would later form KC and the Sunshine Band.

45 version

The true 45 version appears on Priority's Mega-Hits Dance Classics Vol. 2 (1989), where it runs 3:12, and sounds fine, even though it's too loud and clips a bit.

Good thing Priority released it when it did, because every CD from 1990 onward used the LP mix. It's the same situation as "Get Down Tonight": the 45 came out first, the song got a new mix for the LP, and Rhino trimmed down the LP mix for the CD release of the song in 1990.

LP mix and LP length

It's on a few discs, and runs about 6:22. I have a file from the 1988 original release of the Canadian disc Dance Classics, which sounds fine to my ears.

LP mix faded to 45 length

The LP mix faded to the 45 length first appeared on Rhino's Get Down Tonight The Best Of T.K. Records (1990), where it runs 3:18. It sounds great here - terrific dynamic range, nice EQ, low-generation source tapes, and no evidence of NR. The same analog transfer is used on:
  • Rhino's Billboard Top R&B Hits 1974 (1990) - digitally identical
  • Rhino's Didn't It Blow Your Mind Vol. 13 (1991) - digitally identical
  • Razor & Tie's 2-CD Sweet '70s Soul (1991)
  • Rhino's cheapie Disco Hits Vol. 1 (1992) - digitally exactly 0.477 dB quieter
Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 15 1974 Take Two (1991) uses the same analog transfer as Get Down Tonight, but adds noise reduction! Listen to the hi-hat completely disappear on the fade of the Time-Life disc, and compare to the Rhino disc, where the hi-hat stays intact to the end of the fade. Avoid the Time-Life disc for "Rock Your Baby". And also avoid these discs, which are based on the mastering of the Time-Life disc and also have noise reduction:
  • Warner Special Products' 18 Disco Superhits (1996)
  • JCI's Only Dance 1970-1974 (1996)
  • Madacy's Rock On 1974 (1996) - digitally exactly 1.9 dB louder
  • Time-Life's Solid Gold Soul Vol. 9 1974 (1996) - differently-EQ'd digital clone
  • Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 43 '70s Dance Party 1972-1974 (1997) - differently-EQ'd digital clone
  • Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 29 #1 Hits Of The '70s '70-'74 (2000) - digitally identical
  • Time-Life's 2-CD Seventies Music Explosion Vol. 1 Sunshine (2005)
Finally, I have a few foreign discs that seem to be new analog transfers of the same source tape that Rhino used. None of these have noise reduction:
  • EMI UK's Time To Remember 1974 (1996)
  • Disky UK's Beat Goes On Vol. 5 (1997)
  • EMI Australia's 5-CD Seventies Complete Vol. 1 (1997) - fades a little early
  • Disky UK's 5-CD Wow That Was The 70's (1999) - compressed
  • Disky UK's 8-CD Greatest Hits Of The '70s (2000) - missing first two beats of song
My recommendations

For the true 45 version, go with Priority's Mega-Hits Dance Classics Vol. 2 (1989).

For the LP mix faded to the 45 length, go with Rhino's Get Down Tonight The Best Of T.K. Records (1990).

I don't have enough versions of the LP version to make a recommendation.

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When I first heard the single mix on a CD, I thought a multi-generatational tape had been used because it sounded really hissy from the get-go, especially in the intro. But then, Mark Mathews explained to me that it was actually the music (I can't recall the details - probably something in the drums) that was making it appear to me as hissy, but it wasn't. It was just the way one of the instruments sounded.
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When Rhino purchased Roulette Records in 1989, the T.K. catalogue came with it. Roulette had purchased T.K. about ten years before. Rhino was very displeased with the tapes they received from Roulette (but, of course, didn't want to mess with Morris Levy). For example, there were no Tommy James tapes at all. Rhino went looking for usable Tommy James tapes and found the tapes they would eventually use in the possession of Tommy James himself. (I'm recalling this from a Goldmine article from at least 25 years ago.) Tommy James did not have copies of the single masters; these would long be believed to have been lost forever until they were discovered in the EMI vaults in the UK about twenty years later.

My guess is that Rhino (now owned by Warner Brothers) did not receive the single masters of "Rock Your Baby" and "Get Down Tonight" from Roulette back in 1989.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 February 2017 at 10:07am
My 45, which is styrene, with deadwax as TK-1004-A, has
a listed time of 3:14 and an actual run time of 3:17.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 March 2017 at 5:55pm
Had a chance to listen to the lone 45 version listed in
the database and it actually fades 5 seconds early
compared to the actual 45.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote EdisonLite Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 March 2017 at 11:18am
<My guess is that Rhino (now owned by Warner Brothers) did not receive the single masters of "Rock Your Baby" and "Get Down Tonight" from Roulette back in 1989>

Hmm... has anyone compared this version with the single version on any import CDs? I recall there was at least 1 import (UK or Germany) that has the single version of this.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 June 2019 at 1:50pm
I went back and re-timed my 45. It's close to 3:17,
running 3:16.7. I'll send a dub to Mark Matthews for his
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 June 2019 at 2:14pm
Make that 3:15.7 since I just dug out the actual
45. So, looks my timing of 3:17 in incorrect or there waa
silence at the beginning.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 June 2019 at 11:39pm
The database needs to be corrected. The lone 45 mix fades
out 3 seconds earlier than the 45 vs. 5 seconds.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KentT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 July 2019 at 8:50pm
Yes, and also bear in mind, this was another Henry Stone
low budget recording. I still get a smile on my face when
I hear it, and I play it every so often.l
I turn up the good and turn down the bad!
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