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    Posted: 14 September 2012 at 7:54pm
although not in the db because of it's low billboard chart
peak position of #40 in mid/early 1968, my commercial 45
for the hollies song 'jennifer eccles' states the run time
as 2:52 but actually runs 2:53.....i bought the import cd
'essential' because on allmusic.com it says it contained a
2:55 running version, but the version on that cd only runs
2:42.....does anyone know which of the myriad cd's may
contain the true 45 length version running 2:53?
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Of the three CDs I have "Jennifer Eccles" on, the timings vary quite a bit. Here are the actual run times:

(2:42) Hollies - Epic Anthology: From The Original Master Tapes (Epic 46161, 1990)

(2:53) The Hollies - The Best Of, Vol. 2 (EMI-Manhattan 48831, 1988)

(2:59) 30th Anniversary Collection 1963-1993 (EMI 99917, 1993) Remixed by Ron Furmanek.

Timing-wise, the 1988 EMI-Manhattan disc matches the Epic 45. If mono compatibility isn't a concern, it should suffice. If mono does matter, the older stereo mix doesn't fold down very well (the vocals have too much reverb and sound somewhat distant) and neither does the split-track vocal on the 1993 Ron Furmanek remix on 30th Anniversary.

The original Epic 45 was a dedicated mono mix. When the Memory Lane reissue 45 finally came out over a half-dozen years later ("The Air That I Breathe" was on its flipside) "Jennifer Eccles" was in rechannelled stereo.    
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thanks, yah shure...that's what i needed....
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I was wondering if the shorter 2:42 length of "Jennifer Eccles" might be representative of an LP length, but I'm not finding evidence of the song ever having appeared on a parent vinyl LP at the time it was a chart hit. Anyone know when "Jennifer Eccles" first appeared on a Hollies vinyl LP release?
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Originally posted by Todd Ireland Todd Ireland wrote:

Anyone know when "Jennifer Eccles" first appeared on a Hollies vinyl LP release?


"Jennifer Eccles" was a stand-alone single. LP-wise, it first surfaced on the 14-track U.K. compilation, Hollies' Greatest (Parlophone 7057) in August, 1968, about six months after the single's release. On the Parlophone LP, the track (no listed time, actual 2:57) appeared in true stereo.

Epic's first U.S. Hollies comp, 1973's 12-track The Hollies' Greatest Hits (not to be confused with the similarly-titled '67 Imperial comp) did not include Ms. Eccles.
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More on this one...at this link it says it is from the above-mentioned
"Greatest Hits" LP (mono edition). Note the run time of 3:03.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3FrbMhiO4Q

Over at the Hoffman site, a poster claims this mono LP and the original 45
are the only places to get the proper length and mix of the 45.

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/hollies-greatest-ster eo-mixes-
mixed-when.763627/

So, perhaps the UK Parlophone 45 fades at 3:03 while the US Epic one
fades at 2:53.
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