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To my ear, the original Fury 45 sounds better than the CD issues from declicked disc dubs. It has better low end and sounds less muddied. Judging from some other Fire and Fury 45 singles, if there is a Vee-Jay Oldies 45 reissue, that would use original West Coast stampers and have the original sound and quieter surfaces. As does my Oldies 45 reissue of "Fannie Mae" by Buster Brown. P.S. The Oldies 45 discography lists this tune. I will see if I can find a copy and compare deadwax with my beat Fury 45.

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I do have a promotional copy of the Oldies 45 issue of the song in my storage locker (which I bought because I had never seen a promotional 45 on Oldies 45) and I will see if I can locate it in my storage locker the next time I am there this weekend.
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Does anyone own the Ripete CD "Coolin' Out/24 Carolina Classics Vol. 2"? How does Kansas City sound on that?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KentT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 May 2012 at 7:52pm
My Monarch pressed Oldies 45 reissue and my Fury 45 are from the same stampers. And the Oldies 45 copy is the better sounding, it has quieter surfaces. Less noisy. Best CD I have heard has been the Capricorn "The Fire and Fury Records Story" mastered by Lee Herschberg. Suspect that the Little Walter DeVenne transfers were used.
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A handful of us exchanged some private messages about the Ripete CD, and Brian discovered some interesting information. The tracks on this disc were licensed from Red Dog Express, which was owned by Marshall Sehorn. It turns out that Sehorn used to be the promotion man for the Fury record label. I can confirm that "Kansas City" is from a tape source on the Ripete CD and sounds far better than any other CDs I've heard it on.

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Sehorn was even more than the promotion man for Fury. He actually discovered Wilbert Harrison and apparently produced the recording session for "Kansas City":

Quote Marshall Estus Sehorn
       
SEHORN Marshall Estus Sehorn, a native of Concord, NC and resident of metropolitan New Orleans, LA since 1965, passed away December 5, 2006 from complications of a lifelong respiratory condition. He was 72.

Sehorn graduated from Winecoff High School, Class of 1953. While attending NC State University, he began playing in and booking bands. In 1958, he began working for New York's Fire and Fury labels as a promotion man and talent scout throughout the South. On one of his first trips back home, he discovered Wilbert Harrison singing "Kansas City" at a local club in Charlotte. Sehorn recorded Harrison in New York at the tail end of a gospel session for the Fury label.


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Originally posted by aaronk aaronk wrote:

A handful of us exchanged some private messages about the Ripete CD, and Brian discovered some interesting information. The tracks on this disc were licensed from Red Dog Express, which was owned by Marshall Sehorn. It turns out that Sehorn used to be the promotion man for the Fury record label. I can confirm that "Kansas City" is from a tape source on the Ripete CD and sounds far better than any other CDs I've heard it on.

It has to be a tape OF a disc dub, for had a tape existed when the single came out in 1959, the Fury 45 would have used it. But the same pops and clicks on the original single appear on every subsequent release, though some have been cleaned up better than othrs.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2012 at 10:19am
It must have existed on tape somewhere when it was originally recorded, right? By 1959, I doubt most artists were recording directly to a lathe. I don't hear any pops and clicks or turntable rumble on this recording, and I also don't hear anything that sounds like groove distortion. If the Ripete CD is a disc dub, they've certainly fooled me, and I'm usually very good at spotting those things.
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