Enigma - Return To Innocence

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   In my opinion I feel as though the 20 second segue is part of "Return to Innocence."  But Virgin Records did index the track to start at the chant just like it does on the radio edit.  If I had to author the disc myself what I personally would do is use the 20 seconds as a "space" or filler by having it switch to the new track and begin a countdown until the chant.  If the user jumps to "Return to Innocence" it would start at the chant but if they are listening to the album the track would switch at the beginning of the sound effects.  Make sense?  This was done on Public Enemy's "Fear of a Black Planet" with the phone call in sound effects.   

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chendagam Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 27 August 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote chendagam Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 September 2009 at 7:04pm
	In my opinion I feel as though the 20 second segue is part of "Return to Innocence." But Virgin Records did index the track to start at the chant just like it does on the radio edit. If I had to author the disc myself what I personally would do is use the 20 seconds as a "space" or filler by having it switch to the new track and begin a countdown until the chant. If the user jumps to "Return to Innocence" it would start at the chant but if they are listening to the album the track would switch at the beginning of the sound effects. Make sense? This was done on Public Enemy's "Fear of a Black Planet" with the phone call in sound effects.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 138	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 September 2009 at 8:37pm
	So, if I am understanding you correctly, we have an LP/45 distinction, since the sound effects are not present on the single version.

chendagam Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 27 August 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote chendagam Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 September 2009 at 8:41pm
	Yes the radio edit is definitely the single version. I do not believe a 45 was issued for this but could be wrong. I'm sure they probably issued a jukebox 45. There were 45's for Sadeness and Mea Culpa back in 1990 and 91. They could have lifted your version in question from "LSI The Greatest Hits." That compilation was known for using various sound effect segues previously not used. I'll check.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 138	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 September 2009 at 9:40pm
	John, thanks for allowing me to hear the Greatest Hits segue, too. It sounds like they used the original album on this one, too, although in this case, there are actually three songs overlapping---the two from the original album and the preceding track on Greatest Hits.

chendagam Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 27 August 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote chendagam Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 September 2009 at 4:30pm
	Yeah the GH album is actually pretty neat how they added extra "segues" with previously unreleased "Enigmatic" synths.

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 December 2011 at 9:58pm
	I have the commercial maxi-CD single for Enigma's "Return to Innocence" and it contains the following track listing and actual run times: 1) Radio Edit - 4:07, not 4:03 as printed on the label (there is no opening synthesizer note) 2) Long & Alive Version - 7:04, not 7:07 as printed on the label 3) 380 Midnight Mix - 5:52, not 5:55 as printed on the label 4) Short Radio Edit - 3:01 (same as printed time) (there is no opening synthesizer note) Track 5 contains Enigma's first Top 40 hit "Sadeness Part I". It's the "radio edit" (a.k.a. the single version) which runs 4:14. Essentially, the maxi-CD single contains the same content as the promo CD single except for the tracks being in a different order. The versions of "Return to Innocence" I've always heard played on the radio are the single version and the "Short Radio Edit". The "Long & Alive Version" and the "380 Midnight Mix" are very different versions and therefore likely got little airplay, if any. One more thing... The database does not currently show that "Return to Innocence" appears on the various artists CD Pure Moods (Virgin 42186) in its single version form with a run time of 4:06. Edited by Todd Ireland

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 January 2012 at 4:24pm
	Here's the latest from the news wire... Cassette single copies of Enigma's "Return to Innocence" feature the "Radio Edit" and have an actual run time of 4:07, not 4:03 as stated on the cardboard sleeve. (Thanks once again to good ole Ed for sharing this info.)