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eric_a ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I picked up a copy of this disc today, and Whitney's vocal sounds distorted to me here as well. |
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EdisonLite ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 61 |
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OK, I have an update on this issue - from Sony itself. I've been helping them out with the reissue of Whitney's 1987 "Whitney" CD. Back in 2005, Aaron K brought it to all of our attention that "Didn't We Almost Have It All" had vocal distortion throughout much of the song. There was various speculation as to the cause of this.
With my working on the upcoming CD, I brought this issue to the attention of the Sony guy I'm working with. He found and checked all 6 mixdowns they had and all had the vocal distortion. His final effort was to have the multi-track tapes pulled to see if the the vocal distortion was recorded that way on the separated vocal track. Here's his response: <Multi-tracks had the same vocal distortion. The mastering engineer did the best they can do to fix. It sounds fine.> So basically, they took the two-track master and did some processes to lessen the distortion. At least now, we know Whitney's vocals were actually recorded this way, so there's no need to search for a distortion-free version on any CD. This remaster will probably be the best sounding one (though I haven't heard it.) At least, it's the only one where the distortion was attempted to be removed. BTW, this deluxe edition will have 6 bonus cuts - three other songs released from the same time period, plus 3 previously unreleased songs that were also recorded during the late '80s. |
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budaniel ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 12 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Hey EdisonLite,
so I take it this is going to be a single disc release and not a much hoped for 2-disc release with the 12" versions of I Wanna Dance With Somebody, So Emotional, Love Will Save the Day, and For the Love Of You? |
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EdisonLite ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 61 |
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Yes. I, too, was hoping for a 2-disc set, much like the 25th anniversary release of Whitney's first album (which had a 2nd disc containing videos). It especially would have been nice to have all the 12" vinyl mixes of "I Wanna Dance" on one CD, instead of scattered about on 3 or more import CDs, as they were.
The 3 bonus cuts that were previously released are "One Moment In Time", "Moment of Truth" (the b-side of "I Wanna Dance"), and IIRC, a Jermaine Jackson duet from a Jermaine album (though it's not "If You Say My Eyes Are Beautiful".) The 3 bonus cuts that are previously unreleased include 2 Michael Masser songs and a Winans song. |
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Brian W. ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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Probably "Shock Me," which was the B-side of "Didn't We Almost Have It All." Great to finally found out that the distortion was on the original recording. |
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Santi Paradoa ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 February 2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 20 |
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When can we expect this upcoming reissue Gordon?
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NightAire ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 20 February 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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As long as the reissue is not clipped to death, I'll have to pick this up. Thanks for the info!
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MMathews ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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The rarest form of a "deluxe" re-issue is the only one i
like: either bonus tracks, OR a bonus disc containing all other released versions of the albums tracks, meaning 45 edits, 12" single mixes, radio edits, B-sides etc. Once in awhile i actually encounter one. Most of the time, i see a bunch a "live" tracks. Sorry, not interested. The bonus tracks on this release are not bad, but in my opinion, woefully incomplete. |
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EdisonLite ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 61 |
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Brian, Yes, "Shock Me" is the 3rd of the 3 previously released tracks. Santi, probably a January release but I don't think that's carved in stone. Gene, "Didn't We Almost ..." should be the best sounding version on this CD because it's the only one where an engineer consciously tried to remove the vocal distortion. Mark, yes a 2-disc set with all the 12" mixes would have been nice, but I believe all those 12" mixes came out on CD elsewhere, and what's really nice about this collection is that it contains THREE previously unreleased bonus cuts (!), and considering Whitney is no longer with us (and there were only 5 previously unreleased WH cuts in all the Sony vaults), and the fact that the 2 unreleased Michael Masser written/produced tracks are as GREAT as his released songs ("Greatest Love of All", "Didn't We Almost Have It All", "Saving All My Love For You", "All At Once") - will make this a treasured disc in my collection. And in all honesty, at the start of this project, I had no way of knowing if those unreleased songs would even be allowed to be included on this CD. There were so many steps where someone could have said No - the Whitney Houston estate/family, Clive Davis (the record label president), any of the publishers/writers - anyone of these entities could have said No, feeling the recording wasn't good enough, never fully completed, etc. etc. So I was glad all 3 got approved. As for the other unreleased stuff, my understanding is they're coming, too - in future releases like a boxed set or various "Essential" or "Ultimate Whitney" type releases. There will be an "Essential" type of CD release for this Christmas, but they won't have these 3 particular bonus cuts, and I haven't seen the track listing yet.
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Fantastic info, Gordon! How cool is it to have a forum member here bring the "Didn't We Almost Have It All" distortion issue to the attention of the Sony people and an engineer responds in kind by actually trying to fix it! Now if there's any way you could gently suggest to them not to remaster "Didn't We Almost Have It All" and the rest of the Whitney album with excessively loud "brickwalled" audio levels, then I'd really be happy! ;-)
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