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    Posted: 30 July 2008 at 10:25pm
While listening to a KOMA aircheck from 1971 I heard an edit of Gimme Shelter. Using the Collectors Series 6:16 version, there are two edits. The 1st from 2:04:09 to 2:33:59 (both on the downbeat of 1). The 2nd from 3:18:07 to 5:07:79 (right on "War, children..." for both seems to work best. The song is then faded to around 3 minutes and 20 seconds.

I know this wasn't a Top 40 hit (should have been), but does it match any issued promo?

Also, any info on other Grand Funk dj edits like "Footstompin' Music"?

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I dubbed this song a couple years ago from a Capitol Starline 45, which was their reissue series. Gimme Shelter on one side, Closer To Home on the other. Deadwax for the Gimme Shelter side is S45-77079. Listed time is 3:26, actual time is 3:30.
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Then perhaps rather than a dj edit, what I heard was just the regularly issued 45 faded 10 seconds early by the jock.

Anyway, now everyone knows how to recreate the 45 version of a great early 70's song and one of the best covers of a Rolling Stone's song.
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I don't recall any charted GFR DJ 45s that differed from their commercial counterparts.

Speaking of KOMA, here's a scan of the station's copy of "Mr. Limousine Driver." I was surprised to find it in the library, since this one missed the top forty by such a wide margin. The (3:25) stated time is the same as the commercial 45; actual time on the promo is (3:33) and this is an edit, not an earlier fade of the (4:27) LP version.

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Does KOMA use vinyl in the course of their music presentation?

I know it's not totally unusual--WCBS-FM in NY uses vinyl at least once an hour on Tuesdays, and WDRV in Chicago plays a 45 at 1:45 PM (hence the bit title "One 45 at 1:45") and plays an LP side during overnights.

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Originally posted by sriv94 sriv94 wrote:

Does KOMA use vinyl in the course of their music presentation?


Doug, My tour of duty at KOMA was several decades ago. I doubt that the present KOMA-FM uses any on-air vinyl; they weren't using any when I last visited four years ago.

"Limousine" was one of those 45s programmed (and listed on station charts) as an "LP cut" by some AM top-40s on a very limited airplay basis. The Guess Who 45 below shows no wear and tear at all.



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Originally posted by Yah Shure Yah Shure wrote:

I don't recall any charted GFR DJ 45s that differed from their commercial counterparts.



I don't know the length of the commercial 45, but my promo copy of "Heartbreaker" (#72, 1970) is listed as 4:05 on one side and 6:30 on the other. I haven't actually timed out the record. I'm guessing the 6:30 version was the stock single as I don't ever recall a Capitol single from that era where the long version was an album version (though Columbia and Motown would occasionally put the album version on one side of the dj 45).
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On the Mr. Limosuine Driver scanned above that's probably also the length of the commerical 45 too, since at that time Capitol would re-number radio versions with a PRO or SPRO number. If it was the same as the stock they just added a P to the number as seen above. There of course are exceptions.

Capitol Special Products made a complilation CD that was pressed in Canada but mostly distributed here called "Heavy Hitters" which contains the 3:30 version of Gimme Shelter. (Plus the single version of Closer to Home)

Footstompin Music was the oddest one as they made a short version only for radio.

FYI I have several Grand Funk promos and the mono sides of We're An American Band, Locomotion, and Shining On appear to just be fold downs of the stereo, no speed or mix version.
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The database does mention one dj edit that differs from the commercial 45. But many of their singles didn't break the Top 40.

1972 FOOTSTOMPIN' MUSIC (dj copies of this 45 run (2:54) not (2:34) as stated on the record label, and (3:45); commercial copies all run (3:45))

Thanks for the scans Yah Shure. KOMA AM (Oklahoma City) was a great station in the early 70's. Their signal was so strong at night they would run concert advertisements for cities in Wyoming or S Dakota. The jock on the aircheck was Scott Walker by the way if he was still around when you worked there.

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Good call, Hykker. I never had the "Heartbreaker" single; the stock was (6:30).

Although hardly a top-40 hit at #90 in 1972, the "Questions" by Bang (Capitol 3304) promo 45 had the stereo (3:46) LP version backed with a mono (3:15) edit. The commercial 45 was the (3:15) mono edit.
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