Incorrect printed run times...

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   We all know how commercial and promo singles often have incorrect run times printed on their labels or sleeves.  Pat has done a fantastic job documenting discrepencies between printed and actual run times for many, many singles in Top 40 Music on Compact Disc, but there are still some out there not yet accounted for.  Therefore, I thought we could start a thread where readers can post differences they encounter between actual and printed single run times that aren't mentioned in the 10th edition.  We can also open this up to LP run times as well.  Here are a few to get started:

L.A. Guns - The Ballad of Jayne: DJ CD copies of this single run (4:14) and (4:32), not (3:59) and (4:10) as stated on the label. 

Siouxsie & The Banshees - Kiss Them for Me: DJ CD copies of this single state a run time of (4:20) on the label, but actually runs (4:27).

Jermaine Stewart - Say It Again: Commercial 45 copies run (4:08), not (3:59) as stated on the label.

Sting - Fortress Around Your Heart: Commercial 45 copies run (4:37), not (4:48) as stated on the label. 

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Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Incorrect printed run times... Posted: 28 July 2005 at 8:40pm
	We all know how commercial and promo singles often have incorrect run times printed on their labels or sleeves. Pat has done a fantastic job documenting discrepencies between printed and actual run times for many, many singles in Top 40 Music on Compact Disc, but there are still some out there not yet accounted for. Therefore, I thought we could start a thread where readers can post differences they encounter between actual and printed single run times that aren't mentioned in the 10th edition. We can also open this up to LP run times as well. Here are a few to get started: L.A. Guns - The Ballad of Jayne: DJ CD copies of this single run (4:14) and (4:32), not (3:59) and (4:10) as stated on the label. Siouxsie & The Banshees - Kiss Them for Me: DJ CD copies of this single state a run time of (4:20) on the label, but actually runs (4:27). Jermaine Stewart - Say It Again: Commercial 45 copies run (4:08), not (3:59) as stated on the label. Sting - Fortress Around Your Heart: Commercial 45 copies run (4:37), not (4:48) as stated on the label.

Moderator Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 10 July 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Moderator Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 July 2005 at 6:31am
	Does anyone have the commercial single of "Ballad Of Jayne" to verify the running time since Whitburn lists the running time as (3:59) and I suspect that just like the dj copies, the commercial copy incorrectly states the time.
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Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 July 2005 at 5:18pm
	Pat: A vendor at www.gemm.com confirms that the "Ballad of Jayne" cassette single has a printed run time of 3:59 on the label.

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 July 2005 at 5:34pm
	good one...........my commercial cassingle states on the cassingle face that the run time is 3:59, but it actually runs 4:15........no run time listed on the cardboard sleeve........
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edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 July 2005 at 5:47pm
	daryl hall/john oates with david ruffin & eddie kendricks song "a nite at the apollo live! the way you do the things you do/my girl" issued in 1985 on RCA 14178 actually runs 4:36 while the 45's face states the run time as 4:13
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Brian W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian W. Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 July 2005 at 5:59pm
	Whitney's "I Wanna Dance With Somebody" had a printed run time of something like 3:35, when it was in actually the full-length four-minute-plus album version. MJ's "Human Nature" 45 had a printed run time of 4:05, like the LP version, when it actually ran 3:46. "Thriller" I think listed 3:56 and ran 4:07.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 115	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 August 2005 at 1:53am
	I just came across some interesting info about Sting - Fortress Around Your Heart. Although Pat's book lists the song on Dream Of The Blue Turtles as running (4:37), the track listing on allmusic.com states (4:48), the printed run time on the 45. Another web site I visited has "Original 4:48" and "Hugh Padgham remix 4:36." The same site states that this remix version (with the same time as the actual run time of the 45) is on Fields Of Gold US pressing. Pat's book does not list a version, but I'm wondering if the LP and 45 are different, and if we actually have the 45 version on Fields Of Gold.

Moderator Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 10 July 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Moderator Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 August 2005 at 6:23am
	My vinyl 45 dj copy of "Fortress Around Your Heart" states a running time of 4:48 but actually runs 4:38 and sync's up perfectly with the version that appears on the cd "Dream Of The Blue Turtles". The cd appearances on "Fields Of Gold" and "Dream Of The Blue Turtles" sound the same to me so I don't think there is a 45 version of this song.
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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 115	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 August 2005 at 11:12am
	Could there be two pressings of Dream Of The Blue Turtles, with one having the 4:48 version? I'll see if I can locate my cassette tape of the album to see what's on there. Also, I believe my friend has a copy of one of the original pressings of the CD, so I'll see what's on his disc.

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 August 2005 at 10:36pm
	Donna Allen - Serious: Actual 45 time is (3:46), not (3:40) as stated on the record label. Herb Alpert - Making Love in the Rain: Actual 45 time is (4:06), not (3:50) as stated on the record label. Eric Carmen - Sunrise: Actual 45 time is (3:38), not (3:29) as stated on the record label. Gavin Christopher - One Step Closer to You: Actual 45 time is (4:13), not (3:58) as stated on the record label. Christopher Cross - No Time for Talk: Actual 45 time is (3:56), not (4:22) as stated on the record label. Eagles - Best of My Love: Actual 45 time is (3:29), not (3:25) as stated on the record label. Edited by Todd Ireland