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Never noticed that, Aaron. Thanks for the
clarification.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 October 2024 at 9:18pm
I went ahead and ordered the Japanese Ballads CD, and it does include the AC Edit of "Hold On To The Nights." Unfortunately, it sounds like an improperly decoded Dolby transfer. It's not necessarily bad sounding, but the Dolby issue makes it sound like a high generation tape and really exaggerates the highs compared with the 45.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AndrewChouffi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 October 2024 at 4:19am
Aaron graciously let me hear the cut on the 'Ballads' CD;
yep, the dreaded undecoded Dolby rears its ugly head
again...

However, he also let me listen to a pristine dub of the AC
edit.

Was it ever issued promotionally on CD (such as Hitmakers)
or did Aaron meticulously edit in the unique audio from
the promo 45 donut??

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Hey Andy,

I sent you a PM yesterday, but I'll answer your question here. The short answer is 'yes,' but I had to go back and de-construct my re-construction to figure out where it all came from. In my PM, I let you know I sent you my cleaned up promo 45, which is not totally accurate.

The main part of the song from 0:00 to 3:16 is identical between the AC Edit and 45 version. From that point forward, the mixes differ.

TM Century issued the AC Edit on both a HitDisc and GoldDisc, and to my ears this comes from a tape source. The trouble with TM's copy is that they tended to run all their songs through "No Noise," and I could hear the NR on their copy during the quieter passages, especially the ending.

For my re-construction, I used the normal 45 version from CD, TM's version from 3:16 to 3:50 (the loudest passage of the song where noise reduction could not be detected), and then my own cleanup from 3:50 to 4:21.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AndrewChouffi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 October 2024 at 4:37am
Thanks for the detailing, Aaron; I did not get a chance to
check the PM yesterday.

It's interesting that you think TM Century's might have
been from a non-vinyl source at that time. In that era TM
typically used US CD promos as their source, but would dub
a 45 or promo 12-inch if no digital was currently
available. Hitmakers was pretty much the only DJ source
that obtained an occasional DAT of a radio mix that wasn't
otherwise promotionally (or commercially) available.

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Yeah, TM typically didn’t have any special sources that weren’t otherwise
available, so I don’t know if this version showed up on a promo sampler or if
this was a case where they got a DAT or reel copy directly from the label. All
I know is that the 45 is pressed on styrene and both sides of my copy get
distorted during the loud passage (the same passage I mentioned I used
from TM’s disc). Their copy doesn’t have a trace of vinyl noise or distortion
anywhere—just undesirable noise reduction, which isn’t necessarily heavy
but enough that I can hear it in places.
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