Michael Bolton-"The Dock Of The Bay"

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   We got in two promo CD singles for this: (CSK 2874) has the following:

1-"Beefy Mix" (listed 3:45; actual 3:54)

2-Non-described version (listed 3:52; actual 3:50)

The second promo CD single (CSK 2913) only has one track, which was the non-described, listed (3:52); actual (3:50) version. Dare I ask: Where's the beef? (sorry).

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jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Michael Bolton-"The Dock Of The Bay" Posted: 31 October 2007 at 10:30pm
	We got in two promo CD singles for this: (CSK 2874) has the following: 1-"Beefy Mix" (listed 3:45; actual 3:54) 2-Non-described version (listed 3:52; actual 3:50) The second promo CD single (CSK 2913) only has one track, which was the non-described, listed (3:52); actual (3:50) version. Dare I ask: Where's the beef? (sorry). Edited by jimct

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 September 2008 at 7:40pm
	Pat has graciously recorded Jim's promo CD single info for Michael Bolton's "(Sittin' on) the Dock of the Bay" into the database. I thought I'd also add that the actual commercial 45 run time is 3:51. (Timing info courtesy of abagon. The printed record label time is 3:50.)

RichM921 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 30 October 2007 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote RichM921 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 September 2008 at 8:56pm
	I actually liked this song since it was before the crazy over exposure he received in the early '90s. I remember two versions of this song. One had your typical fade ending while the other ended suddenly with an acapella "Sittin' On The Dock Of The Bay" Was one version a single version and the other was the album?

Paul C Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 10	Post Options Post Reply Quote Paul C Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 October 2008 at 8:16am
	The vinyl single had the fade ending. The only CD appearance of the song I have is from Greatest Hits 1985-1995, which has the acapella ending. I don't know if this is the LP version. I also have a vague recollection of the sax solos being different on the LP and 45 versions of "Georgia On My Mind".

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 60	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 October 2008 at 10:47am
	Does the fade on the vinyl 45 take place at a point before where the acapella occurs?

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 60	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 October 2008 at 11:51am
	To answer my own question, no, the fade can't be done correctly. Found a copy of the video for the song, in stereo, on Yahoo. Pasted the end from the video onto the acapella version. The file runs about 3:54.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 165	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 November 2010 at 10:05pm
	In the database, the notes next to the song make it sound like there are four mixes all available on promo CD copies; however, I've only been able to find the "CHR Mix" and "Urban Mix" on promo 45s. Is this the case, or is there a third promo CD single with those mixes?

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 165	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 November 2010 at 12:36am
	I was just able to hear the 2-track promo CD, and the non-described version appears to be the album version, as it has the acapella ending. Does anyone know if the "Beefy Mix" is the same as the commercial 45? This one has the fade out ending and is a slightly different mix than the non-described version. One difference that is easy to spot is that there is a guitar overdub on the non-described (LP?) version that starts just before the first verse. This guitar is absent on the "Beefy Mix." The percussion on the "Beefy Mix" also has quite a bit of reverb, whereas the other version is fairly dry.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 60	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 November 2010 at 7:06pm
	Just got in a commercial 45 since I couldn't track down a promo CD single. Listed time is 3:50, actual is 3:53. Has the fade ending and is mixed differently than the LP version. Deadwax is ZSS 177525 - DMMM- 1A.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 165	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 November 2010 at 8:20pm
	John just sent me a dub of his commercial 45, and it can be concluded that the "Beefy Mix" is not the same as the commercial 45. The stock 45 has even more reverb on the percussion. Another difference I noticed right away is that the guitar solo is further back in the mix on the stock 45. So, it looks like we have the following versions documented so far: - LP version - same as non-described version on 2-track promo CD, which I assume is also on the 1-track promo CD (has acappella cold ending) - Beefy Mix (has fade ending) - stock 45 version (has fade ending) It is to be determined if the CHR Mix matches any of the above or if it is also a unique mix. So far, the LP version is the superior version, in my opinion. The other ones just have way too much reverb on the percussion. Edited by aaronk