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Gordon Lightfoot-"Carefree Highway" |
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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My commercial 45 has a listed time of (3:45), but an actual time of (3:41).
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MMathews ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I see in the DB that DJ copies of this ran (3:00). Does
anyone have the DJ 45 who can describe what is edited? MM |
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Hykker ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 30 October 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 19 |
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The instrumental breaks between verses are shortened, and I believe there's an out-of-sequence edit toward the end. |
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MMathews ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Thanks to John for sending me a dub of his promo 45.
Turns out to be 2 simple edits. First, the promo is mono and it is a fold-down of the stereo. It has a listed time of (3:00) but actual is (3:05). First I tried editing from the "Songbook" box set, but discovered they truncated the fade a little there. But the one from the "Gord's Gold" CD worked great (thank you, Ron, Paul, and John).. First edit is approx. :54 - 1:00, cutting the first guitar solo in half. 2nd edit removes the final chorus. Times are (assume you made the first edit) approx. 2:40 - 3:12, on the downbeat just before "slip away on you" in both places. Your result will run about 3:02. Then pitch down 13% of a semi-tone. That will make it run (3:05). Edited by MMathews |
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EdisonLite ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 124 |
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It seems quite rare that they speed down a song for a single version. I know it's been done on occasion, but most of the time, if there's any change of speed, they speed it up to make it more exciting. I wonder why this one was slowed down.
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AndrewChouffi ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 24 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 10 |
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To EdisonLite:
You ask a good question; I have a possible answer (conjecture). When a tape was edited (analog days) a copy was made from the master to not destroy the master. Sometimes that copy then got played on a different machine that was calibrated a little slower than the original machine. No one noticed it at the time and the edited single got pressed "slower". Alternatey, sometimes everything was calibrated accurately at the studios, but the pressing plant's tape machine was running slow (poorly calibrated). In a nutshell, I think a lot of these "running slow" cases were inadvertent or cavalier. Andy P.S. I would love to hear that digital recreation of the promo edit of "Carefree Highway"! Edited by AndrewChouffi |
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Yah Shure ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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My theory is that Mr. Leadfoot made it through just fine on his initial pass along the Carefree Highway, but was pulled over on the return trip, cited for exceeding the posted 45 RPM speed limit, and decided to cut the trip short.
Theory #2: The promo 45 had to jump through an additional hoop that the stereo stock 45 did not (editing notwithstanding): CSG processing. The label states "CSG PROCESS" and the deadwax matrix number is "RCN-0069-CSG". The poor master tape probably dug its fingernails in under duress as it underwent a CSGotomy, thereby dragging down the speed. Theory #3: The fact that the first two threads at the time that I read this were "Carefree Highway" and "Don't You Worry 'Bout A Thing" leads me to believe that Mr. Mathews must be working on an easy listening compilation. ;) This is an interesting promo 45, in that the stock "B" side, "Seven Island Suite" also appears on the flip of the promo 45, unedited (6:00), but in mono... and not CSG processed mono, at that ("7IS" was in stereo on the stock 45.) Edited by Yah Shure |
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EdisonLite ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 124 |
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Interesting - I always thought it was for creative/artistic reasons - that the people involved thought it would work better a little slower. It never dawned on me that it would be poor calibration, etc., on tape machines.
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EdisonLite ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 124 |
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I've never thought of "Don't You Worry 'Bout a Thing" as an easy listening song. :) |
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sriv94 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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Maybe he meant a 1974 comp. :) |
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