"Everybody’s Got to Learn Sometime"

I made the single edit of this song last night. Thanks for your assistance on this. Was the 3:48 version available on commercial 45s or just dj 45s?

Upon listening to a vinyl 45 dub of this song, it appears that the true 45 edit cannot be made using Totally Oldies 7 on Varese.

I'm not sure if it was on the master tape or if the producers at Varese decided to "correct" the opening note; however on their CD, they replaced the opening synth note with the fifth note of the intro. I guess they thought that the first note sounded like a mistake and decided to fix it.

The true LP version does not have this "correction." I heard Jim's LP version from a Korgis' import CD and the opening note matches the 45. It's a minor detail, but worth noting.

I have the import Korgis CD "Archive Series".

I simply followed Todd Ireland's guidelines:

<The commercial 45 edits out part of the instrumental portion toward the end of the LP version from 3:14-3:41>

to make my edit. Would this be the single edit? When you say Varese replaced the opening intro note with the 5th note, it sounds like the intro was edited, too -- which obviously I didn't do, based on Todd's description.

If anyone has the "Archive" CD -- I'm just curious, did I make the single edit?

Todd, not to be overly picky...but that's what we do on this board, right? :)

The edit is actually at (3:15) on the second drum strike. When I put the LP and 45 versions on top of each other, they were exatly in sync (and phasing) up until the second drum strike. When I made the edit as you said above, I couldn't get them to sync up correctly.

I know, it's anal, and without putting them on top of each other, you'd never know the difference.

Thanks, Todd! When I first started editing several years ago (1997 to be exact), I used my ear to figure out the edit points. I've gone back and checked some of my early edits, and I was pretty much dead on with all of them.

Over the past couple years, I started using a multi-tracker to edit songs. That means I could have the LP version on one track and 45 version on another and play them on top of each other. Whenever the songs go out of sync, I know there is an edit point. Nowadays, my edits should be indistinguishable from the orignal master tape! Computer editing software allows you to come that close...