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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 23 |
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"Red Rubber Ball" peaked at US#2 in 1966.
"Turn-Down Day" peaked at US#16 shortly after that in 1966. They had a good run in 1966. But that was all the top 40 activity for The Cyrkle. Five more songs hit the Hot 100 in 1966-67, and one bubbled under in 1967. Mono The 1966 45 is mono and runs 2:29. (Discogs shows that the 1966 LP is available in both stereo and mono. I don't know if the mono LP version is the same as the mono 45 version.) It's a dedicated mix, and isn't a fold-down of the 1966 stereo mix. 1966 stereo mix The 1966 stereo LP version is an extremely wide mix, with lead vocals being centered, with bass and piano in the left, and drums and sitar (I think?) in the right. The oldest CD I have with the original stereo mix is Columbia's Pop Classics Of The 60's (1989). It sounds OK here, and runs 2:29. The same analog transfer is used on:
1991 stereo remix Vic Anesini remixed all the tracks on Columbia/Legacy's stellar 18-track Cyrkle collection Red Rubber Ball (A Collection) (1991). It's a tasteful remix with crisp sound, and is quite true to the spirit of the original mix, but it differs from the 1966 stereo mix. Listen to the drum fill in the right channel at 0:38. The 1966 mix has snare-tom-snare-hihats. The 1991 remix has snare-openhihat-snare-hihats. From 1:25-1:26, the original mix has no drums on the bass fill before the next verse, while the remix has an awkward drum fill. There may be some other differences in there, too, but these are the easiest to hear (or see if you have the waveforms on your screen). The mono 45 has the same drums fills etc. as the original 1966 stereo mix. The remix extends about two beats longer than the Sundazed mastering of the original mix, running 2:32. The same analog transfer as Red Rubber Ball (A Collection) is used on:
For the mono mix, find a nice dub of the 45 (or maybe the mono vinyl LP?) For the original 1966 stereo mix, try Sundazed's 19-track reissue of the full-length Red Rubber Ball album (2001). For the 1991 stereo remix, go with Columbia/Legacy's 18-track Cyrkle collection Red Rubber Ball (A Collection) (1991). |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 115 |
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I have the mono LP in storage, and I will try to remember to bring it home to dub. Then we will know for sure if it's the same mix as the mono 45.
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davidclark ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 19 |
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Great catch, Ron. All these years I did not have this indicated as a remix - back
in 1991, there was no "board", and my contacts were very limited at the time, so I had to rely mostly on my own ears, and I never listened that closely. Actually, something I hope the database might reflect more accurately in the future, is these remixes, however slight. Pat has some of this info indicated, but far from what I know to be true based on my years of collecting. I've raised this issue before, but no-one seems to have been interested enough to pursue. |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 115 |
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The mono LP version is a dedicated mix (not a fold-down), but it's not quite the same mix as the mono 45. There are subtle mix differences--instruments that are "turned down"--between the two. The mono LP is, however, much closer to the mono 45 than a fold-down of the stereo.
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