Regina - Baby Love
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Topic: Regina - Baby Love
Posted By: PopArchivist
Subject: Regina - Baby Love
Date Posted: 15 August 2020 at 5:51pm
LP version/45 version (4:08)
Hit #1 on the dance chart and was a #10 hit on Billboard. It's found on the original CD release of Atlantic's Curiosity (1986) and costs about two to three twenty dollar bills if it's available. And that's the only place on CD it exists and was released domestically. Originally written for Madonna and many have mistaken it for a Madonna hit. Doesn't appear on any 80's compilation domestically and on two Netherlands various artists comp called Smashes In Music - 16 Super Hits and Dance To The Music on the Arcade Label. I have neither CD.
For a little trivia a group called the Star Sisters in 1984 in the Netherlands recorded the song first for their album Danger in 1985 and then rerecorded it in 1987 after Regina's became a hit. It was shorter (3:18) without the baby sounds and was not released as a single.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W0tpeOn1GM - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W0tpeOn1GM
Surprised no one has brought this song up on topic. Let me be the first. Honestly I am surprised that since 1986 no one has tried to license this song for any compilation. Was it that difficult? Another true one hit wonder...
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Posted By: AdvprosD
Date Posted: 15 August 2020 at 8:33pm
That cover looks awfully familiar. I seem to think I have a 12" single of that still in the box.
I took a listen to the Star Sisters with the link you provided. I could have sworn I was listening to Sandra. She and her hubby did a number of tunes along with hubert Kah. But, that's all euro stuff. :)
Sounds like a new candidate for yet another ERIC release!
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Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 16 August 2020 at 8:28am
I have the song on a US 1987 CD. The title is Dance
Traxx Volume Two on the Atlantic label (81746). Pat has
it listed in the online database. The song runs 6:29
which is the extended dance mix that appeared on the 12"
single. I do not have that 12" single but on the flip
side was the 7" version and a dub version. I wonder if
that extended version can be edited to match the 45. I
had no idea it was a cover.
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Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 16 August 2020 at 9:02am
Santi Paradoa wrote:
I have the song on a US 1987 CD. The title is Dance
Traxx Volume Two on the Atlantic label (81746). Pat has
it listed in the online database. The song runs 6:29
which is the extended dance mix that appeared on the 12"
single. I do not have that 12" single but on the flip
side was the 7" version and a dub version. I wonder if
that extended version can be edited to match the 45. I
had no idea it was a cover. |
Not sure if the extended dance mix could be edited into the 7 " single. Still hasn't made an official compilation appearance here domestically yet, which is odd considering all the 80's compilations (Sounds of the 80's, Omigod, Rhino Top Hits etc)
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Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 16 August 2020 at 3:42pm
I can tell you why this has never appeared on any V/A
comps after about 1990. Regina Richards owns the full
rights to the recording and won't allow any reissues.
We tried on 2 occasions to license it for the Eric
Records 80s CDs. Both times got an immediate decline.
From what I was told, she never wanted to record it in
the first place. She co-wrote it with Stephen Bray and
was intended for Madonna or any other artist to
record. But Atlantic pressured her into singing it
herself. After that she was unhappy that it basically
sounded like a Madonna copy and she took a lot of flak
for that in reviews.
Despite its success and despite recording for a few
more years she left the recording side of the industry
in the early 90s with no desire to return and no
desire to ever see the song reissued - anywhere.
That was the info I was given.
Also, the 12" version is a remix so it cannot be
edited to make the 45/LP version.
MM
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Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 16 August 2020 at 7:29pm
MMathews wrote:
Regina Richards owns the full
rights to the recording and won't allow any reissues.
We tried on 2 occasions to license it for the Eric
Records 80s CDs. Both times got an immediate decline. |
You would think that with all the licensing fees to be made during the 1990's and 2000's when the CD was at its prime and compilations were coming out yearly (Time Life, etc) that Regina would have made money on it.
This would be a perfect track for an Eric Records, rare 80's comp, along with Hold On To My Love by Jimmy Ruffin. These top 10 hits deserve a domestic release.
Sucks when an artist holds a song hostage. As far as the Madonna sound alike she wasn't wrong...
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Posted By: music4life75
Date Posted: 17 August 2020 at 8:30am
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It has been available on/off Spotify. Currently it’s not available.
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 17 August 2020 at 12:14pm
It's not available on Amazon Music either.
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Posted By: AdvprosD
Date Posted: 19 August 2020 at 8:27pm
Amazon claims to have a V/A collection that has it. It's a label from across the pond.
Format: CD
Release Date: 2007
Label: PTG Records
UPC: 8717438196398
By the cover, it's called "Disco Giants 2." A couple years ago, I bought a boxed set of these which are still in a box somewhere. It's a set of Volumes 1 - 10. If I can find it, I'll post details
about what the version sounds like but, I'm betting it's a needledrop from a 12" single. I remember there were a number of tracks that were extended versions. But worth a look if I find it.
Yes, it's a 12" from the comment at the bottom of the description:
"The Vinyl Masterpiece label's second volume of 20 rare 80's classic extended 12 inch vinyl mixes from artists including Jesse Johnson, Jeffrey Osborne, Kool & the Gang, Fatback, Sheryl Lee Ralph & many more."
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Posted By: BSharp
Date Posted: 20 August 2020 at 5:58pm
Santi Paradoa wrote:
I have the song on a US 1987
CD. The title is Dance
Traxx Volume Two on the Atlantic label (81746). Pat
has
it listed in the online database. The song runs 6:29
which is the extended dance mix that appeared on the
12"
single. I do not have that 12" single but on the flip
side was the 7" version and a dub version. I wonder if
that extended version can be edited to match the 45. I
had no idea it was a cover. |
The single version can be found on the vinyl LP issue
of "Dance Traxx Volume Two" (The LP contained all of
the single edits, but the CD was all extended
versions).
I just compared both and you can edit the extended
version to match the single... with some creativity.
In the second chorus just before the bridge, the
background singers' "...just-call-me" part is missing
from the extended version. The first chorus in the
extended version does have this part though, so you'd
just have to paste that line into the second chorus.
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Posted By: AutumnAarilyn
Date Posted: 21 August 2020 at 6:38pm
PTG/Vinyl Masterpiece from the Netherlands often uses
needle drops and frequently does not get proper
licensing. However given the rarity of most of the
material and the reluctance of the majors and indies to
reissue certain material, it's a bargain. In many
instances, the masters are gone and I don't think these
titles are coming back around.
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Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 21 August 2020 at 11:58pm
BSharp wrote:
I just compared both and you can edit the extended
version to match the single... with some creativity.
In the second chorus just before the bridge, the
background singers' "...just-call-me" part is missing
from the extended version. The first chorus in the
extended version does have this part though, so you'd
just have to paste that line into the second chorus.
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I have to disagree here. The 12" single is a different
mix. The reverb on the drums is slightly different.
Also in the opening of the 45/LP version in the first
few beats there is her "baby talk" vocal effect with an
echo on it. That vocal part is nowhere to be found in
the 12" single mix. So you can't make the correct
single version from it. You can make a remix-edit that
is structured like the single. A lot of the later
parts of the song are very similar in the 2 mixes. But
it will never be the exact single version.
MM
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Posted By: LunarLaugh
Date Posted: 22 August 2020 at 3:15pm
MMathews wrote:
I can tell you why this has never
appeared on any V/A
comps after about 1990. Regina Richards owns the full
rights to the recording and won't allow any reissues.
We tried on 2 occasions to license it for the Eric
Records 80s CDs. Both times got an immediate decline.
From what I was told, she never wanted to record it in
the first place. She co-wrote it with Stephen Bray and
was intended for Madonna or any other artist to
record. But Atlantic pressured her into singing it
herself. After that she was unhappy that it basically
sounded like a Madonna copy and she took a lot of flak
for that in reviews.
Despite its success and despite recording for a few
more years she left the recording side of the industry
in the early 90s with no desire to return and no
desire to ever see the song reissued - anywhere.
That was the info I was given.
Also, the 12" version is a remix so it cannot be
edited to make the 45/LP version.
MM
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Very Dave Clark of her to do so.
Strange that she doesn't want it out there considering
that its not like the song is hard to find on the
internet thanks to YouTube. Also, MTV and VH1 played it
in rotation even long after it fell off of the charts.
It's even highlighted on one of the photo pages in my
early 90s edition of Whitburn's Top 40 Hits book. She
could definitely be making money off of her claim to
fame even if she dislikes the song. There's many
artists who hate their hits but I bet they wish they
owned the rights to them.
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Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 22 August 2020 at 8:01pm
Lunar Laugh,
Even outside the United States Baby Love doesn't even make it on any compilation CD's. If you think about it, it is incredible that if not for its release on Curiosity in 1986, 34 years later we would still be waiting for it to come to CD. Even Hold Onto My Love made a UK compilation disc.
Some artists don't care about making money apparently but I would nominate this song for being the most elusive on 80's comps. During that Time Life/Rhino era they couldn't even get the licensing to it. I am sure if they could, they would have chosen it for their Sounds of the Eighties or various Rhino 80's comps.
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Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 22 August 2020 at 8:06pm
MMathews wrote:
So you can't make the correct
single version from it. You can make a remix-edit that
is structured like the single. A lot of the later
parts of the song are very similar in the 2 mixes. But
it will never be the exact single version.
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Which is why in the original post I made it clear that it is only available domestically on her OOP album. I should know it was the only place I found it on CD. Otherwise if any other compilations in the US had it you could easily spot it on Discogs. The only other two places to find it are on comps released before 1990 in the Netherlands, which I can only presume are digital clones of the LP version found on her 1986 album.
You can chalk this one up to another top 10 hit from that era that should be on a CD comp but isn't....
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Posted By: AdvprosD
Date Posted: 20 January 2025 at 8:02pm
So, as a follow-up... Has anyone found this 45 version?
Or, is it possible to recreate the 45 from the 12" version?
I pulled out my Disco Giants CDs and was curious after hearing the 12."
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 20 January 2025 at 9:07pm
The LP and 45 versions are the same, as far as I know. Earlier in the thread, there was a question as to whether the 12" version could be edited down to match the LP/45, but Mark stated that the mixes are different.
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Posted By: ChicagoBill
Date Posted: 21 January 2025 at 8:16pm
The first thing I noticed in comparing the 45 RPM record, Atlantic 89417, and the version on the Dance Traxx 2 CD, is that
in the first 3 seconds of the 45 RPM single, is the sound of a 'Baby' that is not on the Dance Trax 2 CD. I come up with
4:05.2 for my single, silence to silence. Another shocker for me, is that in my record store, we sold 73 copies of this and
I don't remember it!! As I've said before, I've forgotten more than you'll ever know. -Bill.
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Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 22 January 2025 at 4:44am
Bill, that is because the version on the Dance Traxx 2 CD
is the "Vocal Extended Version" which does not have the
"baby" sound.
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Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 09 February 2025 at 9:40am
aaronk wrote:
The LP and 45 versions are the same, as far as I know. Earlier in the thread, there was a question as to whether the 12" version could be edited down to match the LP/45, but Mark stated that the mixes are different. |
Correct Aaron. There is no difference between the 45 and the LP version. The 12'' as stated by MM cannot be made into the 45/LP version. Amazing its 2025 and the 45/LP is only available on the CD Curiosity from 1986.
https://www.discogs.com/release/2147743-Regina-Curiosity - https://www.discogs.com/release/2147743-Regina-Curiosity
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Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 09 February 2025 at 12:03pm
Regina's album doesn't appear on Qobuz or iTunes (US). I wonder if in 2026 someone will reissue the album for it's 40th anniversary. This one hit wonder vanished all these years later.
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Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 10 February 2025 at 6:35am
Santi Paradoa wrote:
Regina's album doesn't appear on Qobuz or iTunes (US). I wonder if in 2026 someone will reissue the album for it's 40th
anniversary. This one hit wonder vanished all these years later. |
As was noted upthread, the artist, who apparently owns the rights to the song has no interest or desire in making this song available. I suppose if
it's PD in some corner of the world someone could reissue it, but given it's a relatively forgotten song by a one-hit wonder the chance of that
happening is slim.
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Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 10 February 2025 at 11:37am
Hykker wrote:
As was noted upthread, the artist, who apparently owns the rights to the song has no interest or desire in making this song available. I suppose if
it's PD in some corner of the world someone could reissue it, but given it's a relatively forgotten song by a one-hit wonder the chance of that
happening is slim. |
If it never made a comp in 39 years, it isn't likely to make anything with the CD declining in popularity. Hykker is right even the 40th anniversary isn't going to generate an expanded edition or reissue. It remains one of the few top 10 hits of the 80's unavailable digitally. It is a shame.
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Posted By: Rleslie
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 11:00pm
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Hi there— I’m really curious as to who you were in contact with about licensing the song. I ask because I actually work for Regina and have since 2018, and can confirm we have never spoken. I can also confirm Regina does not currently own the rights to her original recording, nor would she object to its inclusion on any compilation, etc. If what you say is true, we would not be releasing a re-recording of the track next week. She is not at all ashamed to have recorded “Baby Love”. I just wanted to clear the air about this. I don’t like seeing false information out there regarding this matter.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 12:35am
Rleslie wrote:
Hi there— I’m really curious as to who you were in contact with about licensing the song. I ask because I actually work for Regina and have since 2018, and can confirm we have never spoken. I can also confirm Regina does not currently own the rights to her original recording, nor would she object to its inclusion on any compilation, etc. If what you say is true, we would not be releasing a re-recording of the track next week. She is not at all ashamed to have recorded “Baby Love”. I just wanted to clear the air about this. I don’t like seeing false information out there regarding this matter. | Hi Ray, welcome to the forum! The post you're referencing from 2020 is from Mark Mathews, who sadly passed away a couple years ago. He worked for Eric Records, a company that has released several various artist CD compilations. Thanks for clearing up any misinformation about Regina's feelings toward the song.
What's the story behind the re-recording?
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Posted By: Rleslie
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 10:17am
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Oh wow, I’m sorry to hear of his passing. The misinformation from his post has followed me for a few years now; I’ve seen others cite it in groups on Facebook and elsewhere, not knowing where it came from. I just wonder who he spoke with about the song because I know it wasn’t me or Regina. I guess I may never know, but I hope people will now see the truth.
Regina and Stephen Bray reunited a few years ago and have been working to release some songs that never saw the light of day in the 1980s. And with “Baby Love”s unavailability, it seemed like a no brainer to re-record it. Paul Pesco and David Sanborn also return on the track. Stephen and his long time collaborator Michael Verdick meticulously recreated the track to match the original. And of course, we hope to make the original version available, too; as well as the 12” version, dub… you name it. Regina actually recorded an entire second album of material that was not released and we hope to put that out as well, along with dozens and dozens of demos from her Red Hot days all the way through to Baby Love and beyond. But I hope those of you interested will check out “Baby Love (Regina’s Version)” when it’s out.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 10:44am
Rleslie wrote:
<div style="text-align: left;">Oh wow, I’m sorry to hear of his passing. The misinformation from his post has followed me for a few years now; I’ve seen others cite it in groups on Facebook and elsewhere, not knowing where it came from. I just wonder who he spoke with about the song because I know it wasn’t me or Regina. I guess I may never know, but I hope people will now see the truth. <div style="text-align: left;"> <div style="text-align: left;">Regina and Stephen Bray reunited a few years ago and have been working to release some songs that never saw the light of day in the 1980s. And with “Baby Love”s unavailability, it seemed like a no brainer to re-record it. Paul Pesco and David Sanborn also return on the track. Stephen and his long time collaborator Michael Verdick meticulously recreated the track to match the original. And of course, we hope to make the original version available, too; as well as the 12” version, dub… you name it. Regina actually recorded an entire second album of material that was not released and we hope to put that out as well, along with dozens and dozens of demos from her Red Hot days all the way through to Baby Love and beyond. But I hope those of you interested will check out “Baby Love (Regina’s Version)” when it’s out. <div style="text-align: left;"> <div style="text-align: left;">
| That's all really great info! I'm glad to hear you're working on getting all of this material released.
As for the person Mark might have spoken with, it likely would have been someone at Atlantic in their licensing department. My understanding is that a reissue label rarely, if ever, reaches out directly to the artist or management. Those requests would be directed to the company who owns the master recordings, and then if the artist is required to provide permission (per whatever contractual agreements are in place) the label rep would reach out to the artist.
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Posted By: Rleslie
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 5:14pm
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That’s certainly a valid point as to him not reaching out directly to her or myself. I also don’t believe he stated when that interaction happened; it could’ve been many years prior to 2018 when I began working with her. But I do know that if Atlantic would’ve been in the mix, they wouldn’t have said Regina owns her masters or anything like that because it isn’t true. I doubt there is even anyone still with the company that was there during her tenure, so all of the things about the Madonna comparisons and her dissatisfaction with the song would’ve had to come from someone who worked closely with her. I’m sorry to harp on this, I just find it so odd that Mark had this interaction with someone and I just wonder who it could’ve been; though I do have my suspicions. Anyway, I’m glad to clear the air and I’m just sorry I couldn’t have made contact with Mark sooner. I appreciate your kindness and for your quick response to my initial post.
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