Guns N’ Roses - Sweet Child O’ Mine
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Topic: Guns N’ Roses - Sweet Child O’ Mine
Posted By: aaronk
Subject: Guns N’ Roses - Sweet Child O’ Mine
Date Posted: 06 May 2006 at 1:59pm
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Does anyone have any info about the DJ versions for "Sweet Child O' Mine" by Guns N' Roses. The database says running times are (3:42), (4:18) and (4:53). I know that ALL of the DJ versions are slight remixes.
I have the (4:18) and (4:53) versions from my TM Century library. I've been able to locate a source for the (4:53) version, but I've never seen one for the (4:18) version---neither on CD or 45. Can anyone confirm that the (4:18) is not just a homemade TM edit? Also, Brian sent me a copy that runs an actual (3:59). Would this perhaps be the same one that Pat is listing as (3:42)? His source was an old Hitmakers radio promo compilation. |
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Posted By: eric_a
Date Posted: 06 May 2006 at 2:16pm
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I know they used the (4:18) version on American Top 40, although that may have come from a TM or Century 21 Hitdisc at the time. I used that as a reference to create my station's edit.
There was also a Geffen promo CD with the "Remix/Edit" version, listed running time 3:57. There's a copy on Ebay right now, with a picture: http://cgi.ebay.com/Guns-n-Roses-Sweet-Child-O-Mine-US-Promo _W0QQitemZ4876792434QQcategoryZ307QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem |
Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 06 May 2006 at 4:23pm
| The (3:42) version I list in the database comes from a vinyl 45 which I just pulled out to time just to verify my entry and guess what, it reads (3:42) on the label but actually runs (3:58). |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 06 May 2006 at 4:32pm
| (Sorry Pat; didn't see your recent post before typing this)--Aaron & Eric: I only saw one Geffen promo CD single on this (PRO-CD-3147), the one Eric just saw on eBay. Has only one version on it: states "Edit/Remix"; listed time (3:57); actual time is (3:59). I also only saw one promo 45 come in on this; both sides show 7-27963 in the deadwax, and list the time as (3:42). This 45 also states "Edit/Remix", but the actual running time here is (3:59), just like the promo CD single. During these years, IMHO, "Hitmakers" magazine led the way in providing current V/A comps to radio. As reflected in an earlier GNR post, regarding the "wink-wink" that Geffen gave them to put out that custom "November Rain" short edits CD that the band forbade Geffen to issue itself. That was a special case, though. Labels did obviously work together (to a lesser extent) with the mags on these frequent current V/A comps, and would at times give them, or one of the others (Hitdisc, TM, etc.) an "exclusive" version. So, there could possibly be other unique edits contained on one of those. Great - can anyone say "collector/completionist nightmare?" |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 06 May 2006 at 7:21pm
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OK, so the version that Brian sent me is most likely the "Edit/Remix" from the US promo CD & 45. I've seen a listing for the (4:53) version on a US promo; however, the (4:18) still remains a mystery. Anyone?
Also, as Eric points out, the American Top 40 version may have come from TM Century. When we used to air Casey's Top 40 in the mid-90s, the show credits said "some of the music on Casey's Top 40 comes from TM Century HitDiscs." |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 07 May 2006 at 9:11am
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When AOR radio was worked "Sweet Child O' Mine" there was a 3-cut promo issued of which at least two versions were remix/edits.
When the track was worked to CHR the short version of that promo was edited down even further (one more edit)& a Number One hit was made... Sadly, I don't own either promo, so I am of little help to the boardmembers with actual bonafide info. Andy |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 07 May 2006 at 3:52pm
| I just found a listing for PRO-CD-3077, which lists lead track at (4:18 - The All Dayparts Remix), but there is a note that says it has a different playing time than what is listed on the insert. The site does not specify whether they have listed the actual run time or the printed run time. The same notation is made for track 2, which lists (4:58 - Edit/Remix) as the run-time. I can say for sure that this version actually runs (4:53), so I will have to guess that (4:18) is the printed run time and is incorrect. If anyone knows the actual run time of this version, please speak up! |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 08 May 2006 at 10:13pm
| I tried to bid on a copy of Andrew's aforementioned 3-track "Sweet Child O' Mine" promo CD on eBay a while back but didn't win. I was under the impression this disc contains three different mixes/edits. Obviously I'm unable to help answer questions regarding the content and run times on this DJ CD. However, I think it's getting pretty safe to say that not all DJ copies of the song run 3:58 as the database suggests. |
Posted By: fratboy96
Date Posted: 03 October 2006 at 7:02pm
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I must have outbid you for it :D
The listings for PRO-CD-3077 with actual times: 1. The All Dayparts Remix 3:58 (actual 4:18.00) 2. Edit/Remix 4:53 (actual 4:58.00) 3. LP Version 5:55 (actual 5:53.44) |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 03 October 2006 at 8:47pm
| Grrr... I hope my bidding helped make that promo CD nice and expensive for you, fratboy96! (Just kidding... and welcome to the message board!) |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 12:21am
| Thanks for the info, fratboy. With the run times you listed, it is now very likely that my TM Century version is the (4:18) edit from the promo single you own. By the way, I did end up finding a copy of the 1-track promo mentioned above. Perhaps someday I'll also be able to get my hands on PRO-CD-3077. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 1:17am
| Interesting that they misnamed the All Dayparts Remix on the TM Century disc. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 10:25am
| Actually, Brian, the TM Century disc does not list a version on the insert for the (4:18) version. The disc that has the (4:53) version does say "Edit/Remix." |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 30 November 2007 at 4:44pm
I just obtained a copy of this promo CD, and the actual times listed in the previous post are not quite right. The times above include the dead space in between tracks. The actual times without the blank spaces are: 1. 4:15 2. 4:55 3. 5:53 |
fratboy96 wrote:Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 30 November 2007 at 4:53pm
| My 45 (which is from the UK with the 33 1/3 sized hole in the center) is listed as Edit/Remix. (GEF 55 A2) in the deadwax. No listed time, but it runs 3:58. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 30 November 2007 at 8:05pm
| That's the same as the US 45 version, which was featured on the other promo CD that Jim mentions above. |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 10:29am
| Bringing this old, detailed thread up to the top for Fetta, |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 12:26pm
| I haven't checked the database, but to summarize the above info, the 3:42 labeled copies actually run 3:58 and the 3:58 labeled copies actually run 4:15, correct? |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 15 January 2009 at 12:25pm
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Here's a summary:
Single Version aka "Edit/Remix" Actual time - 3:58 Can be found on stock 45, promo 45, 1-track promo CD promo 45 printed time is 3:42 promo CD single printed time is 3:57 (labeled "Edit/Remix") stock 45 printed time is ?:?? The All-Dayparts Remix Actual time - 4:15 Can be found on 3-track promo CD with printed time of 3:58 Edit/Remix Actual time - 4:55 Can be found on 3-track promo CD with printed time of 4:53; not the same as 1-track "Edit/Remix" |
Posted By: RichM921
Date Posted: 15 January 2009 at 6:30pm
| I'm curious. How different is the "All Dayparts Remix"? Do they suppress the guitars or something? |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 15 January 2009 at 7:39pm
| Without comparing them closely, I'd say all three "remix" versions are the same remix, just edited to different lengths. It sounds like they started with the 4:55 edit and chopped more out for the 4:15 "All Dayparts Remix." Later, for the commercial 45 and second promo CD, they made one additional edit to the 4:15 version. |
Posted By: torcan
Date Posted: 27 April 2010 at 6:01am
Bumping up an old thread...I was looking at e-bay recently and saw a promo 45 listed for this title. The label showed a time of 3:42 (edit/remix). The commercial single in the US (which I have) was the full 5:55 LP version. The commercial single in Canada (which I don't have, but have seen many times) listed the time as 3:57 (edit/remix). I know that Guns N Roses had a deal with Geffen that none of their songs would be edited for single release. Maybe this promo single came before that deal(?) When this song was a hit, I remember hearing two different edits on the radio - one of them was a short version but had part of the guitar solo between the verses intact. The other omitted this solo totally. Does anybody know if there was more than one promo 45 of this song - or were the other edits CD single only? Speaking of Canadian 45s, the "Welcome to the Jungle" 45 was listed as 3:35 (edit). Surprising, because I've got a copy of the promo 45 from the US (with the "Don't Report this Record" picture sleeve) and it's the full 4:31 version. Not sure where this shorter edit came from. FWIW, the Canadian 45 of "Paradise City" was the full 6:46 version. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 27 April 2010 at 7:38am
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Torcan, this is interesting news if you've found a US commercial 45 of "Sweet Child" with the full 5:55 LP version on it. To date, everyone reports that commercial 45s have the 3:58 Edit/Remix.
Also, is your short "Welcome To The Jungle" a promo or commercial copy? |
Posted By: torcan
Date Posted: 27 April 2010 at 9:11am
There are a number of commercial copies on e-bay right now - here's one of them. If you click on the closeup of the label you can see the time printed clearly. http://cgi.ebay.com/Guns-N-Roses-Sweet-Child-O-Mine-Its-Easy -PS-VG-/110507137853?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=ite m19babd1b3d The short "Welcome to the Jungle" was a commercial copy. There's a dealer at the Toronto records shows who always seems to have it. I think I'd better pick it up next time! I just wasn't sure if this edit was common or not. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 27 April 2010 at 11:38am
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Torcan, I just checked the database, and it currently says "commercial copies all run 5:54." For some reason, I thought this song had "LP version" comments next to all the CDs. I guess there are no 3:58 commercial 45s. Only promos have this version.
If you ever get your hands on the "Jungle" 45 edit, I'd love to hear it! |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 27 April 2010 at 11:43am
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Hmmm...this listing on Discogs says it's a US pressing and runs 3:57:
http://www.discogs.com/Guns-N-Roses-Sweet-Child-O-Mine/release/1275878 - http://www.discogs.com/Guns-N-Roses-Sweet-Child-O-Mine/relea se/1275878 It's the same catalog number as the cassette single, with the exception of the last number. By contrast, the cassingle reportedly has the full 5:55 LP version. Were there two commercial pressings of this 45? |
Posted By: bwolfe
Date Posted: 28 April 2010 at 6:00am
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Anyone of us in radio back in those days will remember the deer in the headlights feel we all had when the first GNR was released to CHR.
Quickly we all realized the monster they would become. ------------- the way it was heard on the radio |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 28 April 2010 at 11:05am
It may be that the claim of "US pressing" for that disc is in error. It could be a Canadian pressing. The catalog number is different than on the US 45, but matches the catalog no. for the Canadian 45 in this Ebay listing, which says "Edit/Remix" on the label: http://cgi.ebay.com/Guns-N-Roses-45-Sweet-Child-O-Mine-1988-Canada-M-NOS-/270559748364?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item3efe9e210c - http://cgi.ebay.com/Guns-N-Roses-45-Sweet-Child-O-Mine-1988- Canada-M-NOS-/270559748364?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Music_on_Vinyl&ha sh=item3efe9e210c |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 28 April 2010 at 1:21pm
Brian, are you saying that 27963-7 is not the US catalog number? There are other 45s on eBay (all from US sellers) with that catalog number and appear to be US pressings, such as http://cgi.ebay.com/GUNS-N-ROSES-P-S-45-RECORD-SWEET-CHILD-MINE-/200464383443?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item2eac9bbdd3 - this one or http://cgi.ebay.com/Guns-n-Roses-UNPLAYED-45w-PS-Sweet-Child-Mine-/150436783952?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item2306bb2750 - this one. You might be right that the discogs listing is the Canadian single, though. Perhaps there are both US and Canadian singles with the same catalog number, although the US one has the full LP version. Am I losing my mind, or did the database, at one time, indicate "LP version" next to "Sweet Child"? I think that's why I always thought the 3:57 version was the US 45 version. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 28 April 2010 at 3:07pm
I guess I was assuming the "other" US single listed on Discogs with a different catalog number was "the" catalog number. It's 9 27794-7, which strangely ALSO lists the Edit/Remix as the A-side, but with a completely different B-side! ("Out Ta Get Me" LP Version.) Now it's really convoluted! |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 28 April 2010 at 3:44pm
| Yes, I'm confused about this one, too. Does anyone own a US commercial copy of the 45 with a catalog number other than 27963-7? Does anyone own any US commercial 45 with the shorter "edit/remix"? |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 28 April 2010 at 6:50pm
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My US commercial 45 of "Sweet Child O' Mine" is 7-27963-A and is the 5:55 LP version (backed with "It's So Easy" live). The handwritten info is 7-27963-REI-A.SRI (with the picture sleeve of the pistols and roses on the front and the picture of the band on the back). I purchased it in Miami in '88 when it hit the charts. ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 28 April 2010 at 9:22pm
This is a slightly different catalog number than the other ones. The "REI" in the deadwax is also interesting. |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 27 March 2011 at 1:49pm
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Found another source for the 3:58 Edit/Remix.
I think it may have been the UK 45 version. It turns up on the 2-CD UK set The Hits Album 10 (CDHITS10, released 1989). No guarantees that this one is cheap, but it may be more plentiful than that 1-track promo CD single. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 28 May 2015 at 8:11pm
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I have the UK 45 containing the 3:58 edit/remix, but I
just ordered a copy of The Hits Album 10. I'll be anxious to see if it matches my copy of the edit/remix and won't be brickwalled or overly compressed. |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 28 May 2015 at 8:39pm
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It sounds just fine on The Hits Album 10. Nice
dynamic range, good EQ, no extra compression/limiting, no noise reduction. It's a small notch below the promo CD single, probably because it's from a different source tape, but I heartily recommend it nonetheless. I'm impressed that you found The Hits Album 10. Mind if I ask where? ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 29 May 2015 at 9:11pm
| Discogs, Searched by title of the album. Paid 13.40 US. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 05 June 2015 at 11:15pm
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My copy of The Hits Album 10 arrived today. Sweet
Child matches my UK 45. Nice to have a clean, digital copy of the edit-remix. You're right, Ron, sounds great! |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 12 August 2020 at 12:04pm
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Just summarizing here.
There are four different versions of the song. 5:54 LP version
------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |