Don Henley - Dirty Laundry
Printed From: Top 40 Music on CD
Category: Top 40 Music On Compact Disc
Forum Name: Chat Board
Forum Description: Chat away but please observe the chat board rules
URL: https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=854
Printed Date: 17 May 2025 at 5:02pm
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 12.07 - https://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: Don Henley - Dirty Laundry
Posted By: davidclark
Subject: Don Henley - Dirty Laundry
Date Posted: 22 April 2006 at 8:19am
|
I bought the "I Can't Stand Still" LP containing the above track in 1982. It's a Canadian pressing, Asylum XE1-60048. When I bought his "Actual Miles" CD, I noticed the beginning of "Dirty Laundry" was different - it had a keyboard overdub that my LP did not have. I believe CD copies of "I Can't Stand Still" are the same as "Actual Miles", but I do not own one to confirm.
Can anyone confirm whether or not the original US LP or the 45 had the keyboard overdub? It could be another one of those instances where a reissue CD attempts to change history! I have sent out an email with the bg dubbed from my LP to a few on this board for comparison. ------------- dc1 |
Replies:
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 22 April 2006 at 8:42am
|
From my recollections of listening to the track back in the day, I believe there were a couple of different mixes. Check your LP to see how audible the telephone ring is on the a capella "kick 'em when they're up" bridge leading into the key change. I think you'll find that's another difference between the two versions (the CD version has it way up, while on your LP version you should barely hear it).
I'm not sure exactly what was released on vinyl in the U.S., though. I'm pretty sure that of the then-three top 40 stations here playing the song that two of them played the version on your LP while the other played the version with the keyboard overdub and more audible telephone ring. Whether that other mix was issued commercially or only serviced to radio I don't know. ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 22 April 2006 at 10:07am
|
Being a huge Eagles fan, both of the group and of its individual members from a musical standpoint, I'm very curious to know more about the origin of this alternate version or mix of "Dirty Laundry" because I do remember hearing it many years ago. The one I'm most accustomed to is on Don Henley's I Can't Stand Still CD which contains the keyboard overdub and the loud telephone rings. Does anyone have a U.S. vinyl 45 or LP copy who can tell us which version or mix of "Dirty Laundry" appears on it?
Also, does a short radio edit for "Dirty Laundry" exist out there? I can't say I've ever seen or heard one. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 22 April 2006 at 10:47am
|
i'm sending everyone a copy of the actual 45 now for your review.... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 22 April 2006 at 11:04am
| It looks like Pat has now posted the official verdict for "Dirty Laundry" in the database, which you can view if you are a paying subscriber. |
Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 22 April 2006 at 11:06am
| The vinyl LP version has yet to appear on cd. As David Clark has pointed out, someone has tried to change history by releasing the 45 version on the cd "I Can't Stand Still". |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 22 April 2006 at 11:08am
| Nice catch, David! |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 24 April 2006 at 10:35am
| My 1982 promo 45 of "Dirty Laundry", gotten that year, says "long" (implying "long version.") One side stereo, one side mono - same length. We only received this promo 45 configuration at the radio station. I've spent the 24+ years since trying to locate or confirm that a "short" promo 45 equivalent could've ever seen the light of day. Or was that concept vetoed by Henley (or someone else) before being issued, even in promo form only? Dying to know the whole story... |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 24 April 2006 at 7:12pm
| I don't believe there ever was an oficial edit of "Dirty Laundry". I remember I was asked to make one for WFLY's PD Jack Lawrence and contemporaneously Bill Cahill made one for his station at the time, WTRY. (Albany-Schenectady-Troy NY market). |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 25 April 2006 at 2:26am
If you ever do happen to run across a copy of a short promo 45 version of "Dirty Laundry", jimct, please let us know! |
jimct wrote:Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 29 April 2006 at 3:46pm
| Hi Andy! I remember the promo said "long version" on Dirty Laundry which implied to me that a short version was available, so I called the label and they said they didn't issue one. I thought it was too long and chopped it myself for WTRY. Funny that Jack wanted one too. Yeah I looked and looked for a short and never came up with one either. |
Posted By: torcan
Date Posted: 23 June 2006 at 9:37am
|
Replying to an old thread...but my Canadian vinyl copy of "Dirty Laundry" runs 5:38. I recall seeing a version at a record show several years ago that either ran 4:38 or 4:39 (don't remember whether it was a Canadian or US copy). I recall hearing that version on a US radio station at least once - they cut out a large chunk of the instrumental near the middle of the song. Unfortunatly I didn't think to grab the single when I saw it because I preferred the longer version.
Hope this helps! |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 26 October 2007 at 6:53pm
|
Reviving this thread, thank goodness for this board! There is a promo 45 on eBay right now, with the word long in the upper, right hand corner of the label. One would assume that the flip would be short. Thanks to the facts presented here, I'm saving myself $4.00+!
Andrew and Bill, how did your radio audience react to the custom edits you made? |
Posted By: BillCahill
Date Posted: 31 October 2007 at 4:31am
| Nobody noticed as far as I can remember for WTRY. I think we had trouble fitting long songs into the morning show so I cut it to 4:00 or something. |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 21 December 2014 at 7:40pm
|
Actually there was an edit that I've heard on US countdown shows at the time (around December 1982), but also on some local Top 40 AM stations. The beginning from :00 - :18 had the overdubbed keyboard. The first edit halves the guitar solo, removing 2:37 to 2:57 (both on the downbeat). Then at the end, the first half of the last guitar solo is removed from 4:21 to 4:40 (going by LP times).
Has no one else heard that version? I'd have to believe it's on a record, as that would be five or six broadcaster doing the VERY SAME custom edit, which isn't likely. :) ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 24 January 2015 at 3:38pm
|
I was surprised no one could answer this. Was there not a promo single similar to what I've described above?
Cheers All! :) ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 25 January 2015 at 6:10am
| Yeah having the words "Long Version" on the promo led me to contact the label at the time to get the "short version" but Geffen said there wasn't one. Where could that version have come from? Some possible places: Big market stations requested (and got) reel to reel dubs of songs for better quality, maybe they got a "short version" on tape from the label which never made it to vinyl. (Henley may have rejected it but maybe the edit leaked out on tape anyway, who knows). Or, some record promotion people brought around a dub of an unofficial radio station edit on reel to reet tape. I gave some edits to record people on reel to reel tape. Or there was a short promo that nobody on this board has been able to find yet. |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 09 July 2016 at 9:55pm
One of the 25 worldwide Discogs entries for "Dirty Laundry" (noted to be, rightly or wrongly, a German re-issue 45) specified the DL side a listed time of (4:40). Could this have been what Torcan had spotted at his record show long ago? No copies of this 45 were currently available on the Discogs Marketplace, so the best I could do was to add it to my want list over there, and hope that a copy pops up for sale eventually. Then, just for the heck of it, I followed up with a simple Google Advanced search for "Don Henley", "Dirty Laundry" and "4:40". Well, I got a hit. It turns out that another of the 25 Discogs 45 entries for DL; again apparently of German origin, came back as a match. (Thankfully, full deadwax/etc details had been included by the folks who added both entries, and there were numerous "minutia similarities" between the two.) However, the listed time on this latest DL copy was the usual (5:38). So I asked myself, "So why then did it just pop up during my (4:40) search?" Turns out it did because the person adding this entry was thorough enough to thankfully add a brief note at the bottom of this listing, stating: "The actual duration of Track A ("Dirty Laundry") is (4:40)." Bingo! And there *was* one copy available. Just two bucks, but the buyer is in Austria, and only ships Registered Mail, so 1) the total cost ended up at around $20, and 2) I suspect it will take several weeks to arrive. (For this reason, given a Discogs seller choice, I always opt for the US seller.) So while this discovery isn't T4MOC db noteworthy, as it originated from an import 45v source, I'm 95% sure that, if true, this (4:40) version was first created back in the U.S., and was ticketed early on to be the mysterious "DJ 45 short version" stateside, before that plan was ultimately scrapped at the 11th hour by Asylum, for whatever reason. When my copy eventually arrives (and assuming it does actually run (4:40)), I'll then pass along 45 dubs of it to both Aaron and Mark Mathews, for their expert analysis. |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 14 July 2016 at 3:40am
|
I would really like to hear this as well. I have been asking about this single quite a bit.
I tried simulating the edit as I remembered it, and the song length came to 4:49. Hmmmmmm Thanks :) ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 29 July 2016 at 10:35pm
Well, that's an impressive memory, Jody! Jim just sent me a dub of his German stock 45, and you nailed the edit points. - Starting with the US single version (the only version on CD), delete the second half of the first guitar solo (approximately 2:36 to 2:55, roughly 19.5 seconds making the edit on the first beat of the measure) - With what you have left, delete the first half of the second guitar solo (approximately 3:59 to 4:18, again 19.5 seconds with the edit on the first beat of the measure) - Finally, delete from the word "down" at 4:37 to the end, and create a nice bell-curve fade from 4:23 to the end. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 29 July 2016 at 11:17pm
|
Ok Jim sent me a dub of the German 45, as well as a dub
of the original LP version. It was interesting to her the mix differences after all these years.
I was about to post the same report Aaron did because I had this page opened for awhile and didn't refresh. I'll agree: Jody, very good memory! All you forgot was the early fade. I'll add a note though - the German 45 runs at a slower pitch than the CD rip from "Actual Miles" but I do not know how it compares to the U.S. 45 pitch. Seems pretty apparent that this edit was played here in the U.S. by a few stations at least. MM |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 01 August 2016 at 9:27am
|
I thought I was going crazy for a bit ... lol. You know how sometimes you swear you remember something some way, and everyone seems to indicate (by good and logic reasoning) that it's not the case? ...lol Well I'm glad to know the version exists somewhere.
------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: garye
Date Posted: 10 January 2020 at 10:52pm
|
I have come across a 3:47 edit of Dirty Laundry. Fade
starts at 3:35 and ends with guitar fade and kick em when they're kick when they're down mixed into fade. Only 192K but if anyone wants to hear this edit PM me.' It is the first time I have ever heard this edit at all! |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 11 January 2020 at 10:56am
Can you find a matching listing on discogs for it? |
Posted By: garye
Date Posted: 11 January 2020 at 4:03pm
|
Checked every listing for all countries and promos.
All I saw was 5:38 time on singles and 12 inch listings. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 12 January 2020 at 10:50am
|
Sounds like a custom edit. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: garye
Date Posted: 12 January 2020 at 1:21pm
|
It is a custom edit. Wish I knew who did it.
The download did not say where it was from. Probably something similar to a TM service, but not them. |
Posted By: AudioDile
Date Posted: 21 July 2021 at 11:52pm
|
Waited for someone to mention this, but no one did.
The LP version, besides not having the subtle keyboard overdub at the beginning and softer telephone rings toward the end, has another noticeable difference: instead of just the washing machine sound at 1:34, the teletype machines can also be heard. After the original LP version was gradually phased out of existence, I began to wonder if I'd just imagined it because I hadn't heard it since I bought the cassette in the '80s. I always thought this would have been a great song for a remix, but I guess Henley didn't come around to remixes until All She Wants To Do Is Dance. If anyone has a HQ dub of the original LP version, let me know. |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 22 July 2021 at 2:22am
I remember this mix as well, but I found this Global News YouTube promo that used it. It sounds like the mix. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHimia_Fxzs - Dirty Laundry ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 18 April 2022 at 5:51pm
|
Aaron,
Any chance you have the info on Jim's German Short 45? I wanted to go from unknown in my file system to where it actually came from. Thanks! ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 18 April 2022 at 7:00pm
|
Is this the info you're looking for, Rich?
http://www.45cat.com/record/9698947de ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 19 April 2022 at 7:42pm
|
Thank you sir! ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: mjb50
Date Posted: 09 June 2024 at 1:11am
|
I did a closer comparison of the LP version and the 45/CD version, and noted the following differences:
The 45/CD mix has: additional keyboards on the intro no teletype noises in the break at 1:32 and 3:29 a slightly longer delay on the vocal echo throughout the song a slightly different vocal take on the line "you don't really want to know just how far it's gone" at 3:00 quieted or removed guitar chord on down beats during the verses at 1:572:14 and 2:553:13 differently panned and slightly louder telephone ringer noise at 3:36 & 5:17end. I went ahead and added this info to Wikipedia. @Jody Thornton - The countdown shows you heard the German 45 edit on must not have included American Top 40. Here is what they played: 1982-11-13: LP version, faded at 5:25 1982-11-20: 45 version, faded at 5:19 1982-11:27: LP version, faded at 5:17 1982-12-04: LP version edited at 2:14 to remove guitar solo & next verse, faded at 4:18 1982-12-11: LP version, faded at 5:22 1982-12-18: LP version edited at 2:14 to remove guitar solo & next verse, faded at 4:28 1983-01-08: LP version, faded at 5:30 1983-01-15: LP version edited at 2:14 to remove guitar solo & next verse, faded at 4:28 (1st play) & 4:12 (2nd play) 1983-01-22: LP version edited at 2:14 to remove guitar solo & next verse, faded at 4:23 1983-01-29: LP version edited at 2:14 to remove guitar solo & next verse, faded at 4:29 1983-02-05: LP version edited at 2:14 to remove guitar solo & next verse, faded at 4:23 1983-02-12: LP version edited at 2:14 to remove guitar solo & next verse, faded at 4:17 1983-12-31: 45 version edited at 1:37 to remove 2 verses & guitar solo, faded at 4:00 I assume their edits were done in-house. The LP edit removes 0:48, and the 1983 year-end edit removes 1:18. |