wilton place st band "disco lucy"
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Topic: wilton place st band "disco lucy"
Posted By: edtop40
Subject: wilton place st band "disco lucy"
Date Posted: 02 April 2006 at 6:23pm
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does anyone know if the cd "dj disco mix vol 2" issued in 1998 on simitar contains the correct version of "disco lucy" and not a re-recorded version.......i've listed the info below from allmusic.com
Tracks Title Performer Time 1 Funky town Lipps Inc 2 In the Navy Village People 3 ;Celebration Kool & the Gang 4 ;I Love the Nightlife (Disco 'Round) Alicia Bridges 5 ;Keep on Dancin' Gary's Gang 6 Boogi e Oogie Oogie Taste of Honey 7 ;Star Wars Theme/Cantina Band Meco 8 Stomp ! Brothers Johnson 9 Good Times Chic 10 &nbs p;Love's Theme Love Unlimited Orchestra 11 &nbs p;Knock on Wood Amii Stewart 12 &nbs p;Brick House Commodores 13 &nbs p;Rock the Boat Hues Corporation 14 Fly, Robin, Fly Silver Convention 15 Dazz Brick 16 Don' t Leave Me This Way Thelma Houston 17 &nbs p;Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood Santa Esmeralda 18 &nbs p;Disco Lucy (I Love Lucy Theme) Wilton Place Street Band 19 &nbs p;Boogie Nights Heatwave 20 Get Down, Get Down (Get on the Floor) Joe Simon indicates a click-through to a song review Releases Year Type Label Catalog # 1998 CD Simitar 5345 1998 CS Simitar 5345 ------------- edtop40 |
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Posted By: Grant
Date Posted: 02 April 2006 at 9:38pm
| I once had an mp3 of it, but once I fashioned a 45 single edit out of it, I deleted it. It was just way too long for my taste. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 6:23am
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could you send me an mp3 of your creation???.....edtop40@yahoo.com ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: anthology123
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:27am
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Grant,
I heard of your Disco Lucy 45 edit, too. Could you send me one as well? |
Posted By: Grant
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 6:27pm
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Heh! Soon as I find it! I created it from the mp3 and my beat-up 45. The reason for this is because the mp3 I got was messed up at the beginnings and ends. I EQ'ed it to match the vinyl.
Give me awhile... |
Posted By: Grant
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 11:24pm
| I just sent it out. I didn't play the mp3 file before I sent it and noticed a bit of digital noise near the end that ie not on the original file. I can resend it if need be. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 2:59pm
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nice edit on the "i love lucy" theme.... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 9:51pm
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Ed:
This is in response to your orignal post inquiring about the DJ Disco Mix Vol. 2 CD. I don't have a copy of that disc but, judging by the CD title, it very well could be one of those discs where the tracks all segue into each other to foster a continuous dance mix. Can anyone confirm how "Disco Lucy" appears on this CD? |
Posted By: Grant
Date Posted: 06 April 2006 at 1:15am
| check your emails |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 22 January 2013 at 1:26pm
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What is the actual running time of this single? I have a
version that ends cold and runs (3:34). ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 22 January 2013 at 3:14pm
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My copy dubbed from my original 45 also ends cold, i get
3:35 ..but that's close enough to Santi's copy. |
Posted By: Smokin' TomGary
Date Posted: 22 January 2013 at 7:07pm
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This song brings back a good memory. When I started as Chief Engineer of a well known New Haven, CT AM rock station they had just replaced their air staff. The new Music Director discarded hundreds of 45's which I took home. This was one of those and there were multiple copies.
I visited the station I just left for the New Haven gig. It had a new owner and new PD. The PD was well known and reputed in NYC radio. In passing he told me he looked everywhere in NYC for this song. A few days later I left him two virgin copies under his door. He was ealted, to say the least. Anyway, my 45 copy is Island label IS-078-A and IS 078-AX deadwax. Listed and actual time is 3:35 and has a cold ending. Thanks for bumping this thread and the memory it brought back. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 4:51pm
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Though the database still indicates that "Disco Lucy" is not available on CD, when you click on the title, it shows the one US CD it's on:
(S) (4:57) Beast 53452 D.J. Disco Mix Vol. 2 (all selections on this cd are segued together) This CD is also mentioned in the posts above, but 2 things I'm not clear on: Can the 3:35 single version be edited from this (or close to the single version)? And is this from a tape or vinyl? |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 7:12pm
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Yes, the 45 can be edited from the long version. ------------- |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 7:24pm
| Cool. Does anyone have this CD and can tell if they used a tape source? |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 8:42pm
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Well, I bought and just received this "D.J. Disco Mix Vol. 2" CD. And I'm happy to report this comes from a tape source. So the one CD that has the song has it from tape! The CD was released 15 years ago, so I'm surprised there hasn't been more mention on this board. Anyway, as far as the "segue factor" goes, only the 1st 4 seconds and last note of the song have to be taken from vinyl - because other songs overlap with this song at the beginning and end. Luckily, I have an extremely clean vinyl source and will tack on the beginning and end from there, after I match pitch and EQ. Incidentally, this 12" mix, which is used for the CD, only requires 1 easy edit (moving the final chorus up to the 2nd to last chorus and leaving out the rest, so it wasn't even much work to edit this down to the single edit.)
BTW, Pat, I think you should update the database regarding this song - it indicates it's not available on CD, but it is. I know it's missing a few seconds, but you also include Jimmy Ruffin's "Hold on to My Love" in the database as being available on CD, but one CD is missing 30 seconds, and the other 2 CDs are re-recordings. So if that song is available on CD, so is "Disco Lucy", IMHO. |
Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 31 May 2013 at 9:11am
| I have changed the Jimmy Ruffin "Hold On To My Love" status to "not on cd". I do not consider rerecordings, samples, edited or segued versions to be "on cd". |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 31 May 2013 at 2:32pm
| OK. Well, I'm glad you have a consistency between both songs. This also tells me to click on a song title if the database indicates it's not on CD. There may be a CD with a segued version or one missing a few seconds. I agree that if only a re-recording is on CD, the song should be listed as not on CD. Also if it's just a sample. And you have every right to consider segued versions this way - it's YOUR database - but I still like to know about these releases because I can still use the CD to get most of the song from master tape, instead of none of it. |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 31 May 2013 at 10:13pm
Hah! I did the same thing years ago! I only had the 45, but it was in bad shape, so I uh...downloaded the 12 version from Kazaa or something, and edited in the intro and ending from the mp3 to the 45. I lived with that for years. Then, I decided to just re-edit that download to the 45 version. That worked for me for a few more years. Then, a couple of years ago, I got a phono cart with a Microline stylus, and, the trashed, styrene 45 played perfectly with it! I decided I wanted a lossless version of the song, and I didn't want to shell out $20 for a double CD comp just for that one song. So I pulled out the 45 and played it with the new cart. It was so clean that I made a good needledrop of it and deleted the old edit job. ------------- |
EdisonLite wrote:Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 01 June 2013 at 12:21am
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<I didn't want to shell out $20 for a
double CD comp just for that one song.> Ahh ... well, the price has since gone down. I paid $2.67 for the double CD and that price is AFTER you add postage. That's why I was willing to take a chance on the CD in case this song was taken from vinyl. At that price, you don't have much to lose. |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 01 June 2013 at 9:24pm
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I'm happy with my needledrop. ------------- |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 09 February 2014 at 4:02pm
| I finally made my single edit of "Disco Lucy" from a CD source (taking the 1st 4 seconds and last 1 second from clean vinyl), and I have a question. Is there an album version that is different from the single version? Was there no LP? Did the LP have the 12" version or its own unique version? |
Posted By: Fetta
Date Posted: 09 February 2014 at 6:16pm
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EdisonLite,
If you want, I can send you a copy of the 12" if you need. PM me with your email. -Jeff |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 09 February 2015 at 12:03am
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Tonight on 45cat, I stumbled upon both sides of a seemingly unique
"Disco Lucy" US promo 45 label scan, uploaded by user "jazzmicke". Both sides are stereo, and state "IS078-A-DJ". One side of it, noted here as being the "Long Version", has a listed time of (3:35), and I assume it to be the same version as both the (3:35) stock and promo 45 copy documented earlier in this thread. But on the other side of this particular promo 45 appears to be a previously undiscovered "Short Version". It has a listed time of (2:29). Tonight I managed to track down a hard-to-find promo 45 for it, from a rather obscure website that I've only dealt with once before. That copy has already been bought and paid for, and since the guys ships on Mondays, it should arrive by Friday. I'm obviously hoping it's just like the promo 45 I've just detailed above, although it will more likely be the (3:35)-on-both-sides promo 45. Just wanted to note the existence of this seemingly unique promo 45 here, for the record. If what I receive does happen to include the "short/long versions", I'll provide actual time confirmations for both sides, and I will somehow figure out what's been removed from the (2:29) side. But if I strike out, I'll make finding a copy similar to the one on 45cat a top priority. |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 13 February 2015 at 10:02pm
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I received my "Disco Lucy" promo 45 today, and thankfully, it has the
same long/short configuration as the copy I detailed above from Discogs. Here are the particulars: Short Version: listed (2:29); actual (2:31). Deadwax: "IS-078-A - 2:29 - DJ 1B SHORT". There are at least two edits: The first "let's go" is sung at :14 on this version, as opposed to at the :26 second mark for the stock/long promo version. And there is an instrumental passage from around the (2:05) to (2:25-ish) point of the stock 45, that is removed entirely from the short version. I will do my best to make sure specific, complete edit points are posted as soon as possible, for anyone wanting to replicate it. (By the way, I never remember hearing this "short version" on radio anywhere in 1977.) Long Version: listed (3:35); actual (3:34). Deadwax: "IS-078-A - 3:35 - DJ 1A LONG". A final question. My initial understanding while reading through the earlier posts in this thread was that "Disco Lucy" promo 45 copies with the (3:35) stock 45 version on both sides did exist. But now I'm not so sure about that conclusion. Does anyone else currently own a promo 45 for this? And, if so, are its contents the same or different than my copy? |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 13 February 2015 at 10:07pm
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Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 15 March 2015 at 5:07am
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I asked my buddy Yah Shure (thank you, sir!) if he could analyze my DJ 45
short version promo 45 vs. the stock 45, to see if it could be re-created. His findings were that approximately :04 1/2 seconds of audio found early on during the DJ edit (from :10 to :14 1/2) were not at all present on the stock 45. Additionally, this short version was noticeably sped up, for which I could also instantly tell from the moment I heard it. He presumes that the unique audio segment must've come from the 1977 12" single, which I do happen to also own. I concur with his suspicions. I'm not sure yet if I ever bought that longer, lone db CD (which is segued) or not, but I'm thinking the best-sounding "composite mix" would result from combining my two, clean vinyl sources. So once I can get the 12" version's audio forwarded to John, he's up for further analysis/another crack at it, although I'm sure he's not especially anxious for Round 2 of "Now I can't get that dang melody out of my head!", which his first attempt regrettably did bring on! :) |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 04 November 2015 at 7:46pm
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My wife has had the dang melody in her head for a full day after I worked on this one yesterday.
The 45 version runs 3:35. The section from 0:04.1 to 0:54.8 (downbeat to downbeat) is repeated from 1:02.6 to 1:53.3. I thought that removing the repeated section (0:04.3 to 1:02.8 in my case) would duplicate the promo 45, but doing so leaves a version that runs 2:36. And based on what I just discovered above, that's clearly not the way to get the promo 45 edit. A few years back, I upgraded the cartridge on my Technics 1200 to an Ortofon 2M Red. The very first thing I played (and recorded on the hard drive) was my 45 for "Disco Lucy". It sounded good. A little turntable rumble on the fade, and a few little ticks and pops. I was pleased. Then I heard Aaron's dub of his vinyl 45, which he dubbed with his Audio-Technica AT440 cartridge, and processed using his Aaron vinyl dub magic. It sounded significantly better than mine. Slightly brighter high end overall from the AT440, somehow no turntable rumble, really quite amazing. Great, compared to my good. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 08 November 2015 at 3:58pm
Sounds like Aaron and I got the same results, as I use the AT150mlx. The secret is the microline stylus, which will, literally, cut through the upper crud and play what's deep in the grooves. I almost trashed my 45 of Disco Lucy because it sounded damaged on every cart I played it with until I got the AT150mlx. With that cart, I was able to track the 45 perfectly and get in on the hard drive. The difference with me is that I flattened the EQ with Audition to eliminate the slightly brighter sound. I also remove any noise present in my dic dubs. ------------- |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 03 January 2017 at 12:50pm
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For those curious, the "short version" on the promo 45 cannot be extracted from the 12" version. As John reported to Jim, there is unique audio that is nowhere to be found on the 12" or stock 45 version. In fact, it is more than just :10 to :14.5. The unique audio extends all the way from 0:04 to 0:48! ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 03 January 2017 at 6:14pm
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Hmmmm. I thought I re-created the DJ edit with no problem last year. I'll check my work when i get home to see what I missed.
No kidding about it being sped up ... the promo was sped up by almost a full semi-tone which is drastic. But it sounds much punchier that way. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 03 January 2017 at 9:50pm
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It's hard to tell that there's a difference, but if you line them up in the multi-tracker, you can hear (and see) that they don't perfectly line up. What they did on the 12" (and stock 45) version is loop the same segment twice. On the 12"/stock 45 the segment from 0:04 to 0:54 is note-for-note identical to the segment that extends from 1:02 to 1:53. In fact, if you overlap those two segments, you get a weird phasing effect. That's not true of the promo 45. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |