Unique promo 12" mixes/edits (’70s/’80s)
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Topic: Unique promo 12" mixes/edits (’70s/’80s)
Posted By: aaronk
Subject: Unique promo 12" mixes/edits (’70s/’80s)
Date Posted: 15 November 2012 at 6:18pm
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I raised the question in another thread about unique edits/mixes that
appeared only on promo 12" singles in the '70s and '80s. Since this board and Pat's database has thoroughly documented just about every promo edit/mix that appeared on 45s, I thought there may be a handful of additional "DJ versions" which were only serviced on 12" singles. From the other thread: Dr. Hook "When You're In Love With A Beautiful Woman" (5:12 remix) Nicolette Larson "Lotta Love" (disco remix) Chuck Mangione "Feels So Good" (promo 12" edit) Boney M "Rivers Of Babylon" (7:30 remix / 4:06 remix-edit) Saturday Night Fever "Special Disco Versions" promo EP Kinks "Superman" (3:48 remix-edit) Bob Welch "Precious Love" Pablo Cruise "Whatcha Gonna Do" (4:56 "Special Disco Version") ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
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Posted By: Fetta
Date Posted: 15 November 2012 at 7:17pm
| Smooth Operator (12" mix) - Sade |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 15 November 2012 at 7:30pm
From another thread:
TomGary, this is exactly why I thought it would be good to bring this up. Thanks for sharing your info about which versions made the WAVZ/KC-101 playlists! ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Smokin' TomGary wrote:Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 16 November 2012 at 7:00am
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Sounds like it would be quite a project to sort out the 12" mixes that were only available on promo copies. There was a time, particularly in the early-mid 80s where it seemed almost every song had a unique 12" mix.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 16 November 2012 at 11:03am
Yes, but most of them would have also been available on a commercial 12" single, too, right? ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 16 November 2012 at 7:46pm
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I remember another one:
Kool & The Gang - Let's Go Dancing (Ooh La La La) (ReMix) the commercial 12" contained the 6:39 LP version. This promo came out shortly after, and was remixed in a shorter version (4:48) that removed a verse, and instead contained a synth solo not in the original version, and a chorus breakdown that built up again to the end chorus then faded. Our dance station switched over to this version for airplay. I found the promo 12", but no commercial issue existed to my knowledge. It did make it to CD tho, it was included in one of the "Dance Classics" volumes from Unidisc. MM |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 25 November 2012 at 7:55pm
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Also, doesn't the 12" promo of John Lennon's "(Just Like) Starting Over have several extra seconds tacked on the end that are available no where else?
------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 25 November 2012 at 8:49pm
Yes, indeed! ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Fetta
Date Posted: 06 December 2012 at 6:57pm
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Here's another real good one......
Barry White had a White Label promo called "20th Century Presents For Disco DJ's Only" (Special Mix For Disco Play) Barry White's Greatest Hits. Here is the tracklist: Side A 1. Standing in the Shadows of Love (5:20) 2. I`m Gonna Love You Just a Little More, Baby (7:12) 3. Never, Never Gonna Give You Up (7:47) Side B 1. Honey Please Can't You See 2. Can't Get Enough of Your Love, Babe 3. You're the First, the Last, My Everything 4. What Am I Gonna Do For You I know that "Can't Get Enough Of Your Love" and "You're The First The Last My Everything" are definitely different mixes or different takes. If anyone is interested in hearing this, let me know and I can send over a copy. -Jeff |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 07 December 2012 at 12:54am
| I know I've heard an alt vocal version of "You're the First, the Last..." on the radio. I even inquired about here but I don't think I got any answers. I'd be curious to hear the version you have - because I always wondered about this strange version that would sometimes be on the radio, and I never knew where it came from. |
Posted By: Fetta
Date Posted: 02 February 2013 at 11:25am
| "Baby Makes Her Blue Jeans Talk" by Dr. Hook has a promo only 12" mix with a 6:00 version. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 18 January 2015 at 2:23am
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In the post at the top, Aaron mentions the 12" version of Bob Welch "Precious Love". This song has always been my favorite of Bob Welch's and this version sounds intriguing (I didn't even know about it until Aaron's mention.) Since then the 12" version has not shown up on ebay, amazon or even YouTube. So I did some research tonight - and found 2 different "extended versions". Not sure if both are legit. According to these 2 pages on discogs.com
http://www.discogs.com/Bob-Welch-Precious-Love/release/64903 51 http://www.discogs.com/Bob-Welch-Precious-Love/release/19770 89 the extended version clocks in at 6:07 - on both the US and Canadian versions of the 12". (BTW, there should not be a space before the last 2 digits of these links - no space before the 51 or 89. No matter what I do here, it puts in a space, so if anyone's going to try to go to those 2 links, please first remove the space near the end of the links.) According to these 2 pages where you can actually hear the 1979 remix: https://soundcloud.com/thedjdiscocat/bob-welch-precious-love -1979-disco-purrfection-version http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xv4xc7_bob-welch-precious-l ove-1979-remix_music it's a longer version clocking in at 8:23. There are a few scenarios. The 6:07 time could be a misprint and it's really 8:23. This 8:23 version was somehow done by a fan years later. (I've seen that happen on Youtube all the time!) But the two webpages where you can actually hear this 8:23 version refer to it as the "1979 remix" and the "1979 Disco Purrfection Version" - which makes me think this 8:23 version really was done in 1979. Maybe there were 2 extended versions made in 1979 - 6:07 and 8:23?? Can anyone shed any light on this? Does anyone have either version on vinyl, which would certainly be proof of what version(s) were released in 1979? Too bad this hasn't been released on CD. Hopefully, some day Universal will do so. (And has anyone here done a clean vinyl transfer of the extended version(s) to digital?) |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 13 February 2015 at 9:44pm
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My promo 12" single of Bob Welch's "Precious Love" (SPRO-9094) has the
exact same, listed (6:07), actual (6:02) version on both sides of it. The deadwax information is also identical on both sides: "SPRO-9094 F1". |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 13 February 2015 at 9:56pm
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Smokin' TomGary posted this in another thread:
At 13-WAVZ in New Haven, CT we played an in-house edit of the promo 12" of "Precious Love" by Bob Welch. I wondered where the bells came from as they are not on the 45/LP. When 13-WAVZ swapped formats and KC-101 was born we played the 12" promo of "Lotta Love". ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 13 February 2015 at 10:09pm
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The "bells" segment turned up at about the mid-point of my promo 12"
single, Aaron, so I'm now able to identify the original audio source for them. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 14 February 2015 at 11:02am
| Thanks Jim. Now we know the 6:02 version is a legit release from 1979, and I will certainly try to seek this 12" out. The only question that remains is this 8:23 version, which can be heared at the 2 website links I listed above - they are referred to as a "1979 remix" and a "1979 version" - but was it a legit release and actually released in 1979? Perhaps there were two 12" records released in 1979. I also wonder if they are based on the same mix (which is kind of doubtful) or completely different mixes / remixers. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 27 February 2019 at 8:44am
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Two more to add to this list:
"Abracadabra" by Steve Miller Band It was pointed out in another thread that this is a 4:37 edit of the LP version, which removes one of the verses and also edits out a good chunk of the instrumental ending. "It's Only Love" (Live Version - Remixed by Bob Clearmountain) by Bryan Adams & Tina Turner I don't think this remix of the live version has appeared anywhere else. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 27 February 2019 at 8:52am
Great call on this one, Jeff. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 27 February 2019 at 10:42am
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Paula Abdul "Vibeology" (DMD 1687)
Vibeology (Keith Cohen's Club Mix) Vibeology (Keith Cohen's Vibe The House Dub) Vibeology (Humphrey's House Mix) Vibeology (Humphrey's Hip-House Mix) As far as I have researched, these mixes are only available on the above mentioned double promo 12" single. The only US commercial 12" I have found 0- 96107 features just Steve "Silk" Hurley mixes. Some of the remaining tracks on DMD 1687 are available on promo CD PRCD 4098. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 01 September 2019 at 10:55am
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In the US, the long 4:40 version of "Pride (In The Name Of Love)" by U2 only appears on a promo 12" single. It does, however, appear on commercial 12" singles in other countries. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 01 September 2019 at 11:09am
From another thread regarding "Steppin' Out" by Joe Jackson:
That would make the Album Version (with un-mixed intro) a unique version only available on a promo 12". ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Fastphilly
Date Posted: 29 October 2019 at 9:41pm
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Cliff Richard - We Don't Talk Anymore 6:59
EMI America #SPRO-9252 This long version was pressed on a Promo only 12" Single Earth Wind & Fire - Getaway 5:02 Columbia #AS 243 This long version was pressed on a promo only 12" Single |
Posted By: Loveland
Date Posted: 30 October 2019 at 1:11pm
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When Bonnie Tyler's "Holding Out For A Hero" was released worldwide in 1984 (the first four 'Footloose' singles were pretty much released at the same time), it came out without any mixes.
It barely made the Top 40 in the U.S. and bombed elsewhere (U.K. # 96). Over a year later (1985). the single was re-released outside North America and it was massive (U.K. # 2). The 1985 re-release sported new Jellybean mixes, which were never released nor promoted in the U.S. |
Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 30 October 2019 at 7:41pm
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There's a DJ 12" of "What A Fool Believes" by the Doobie
Brothers available nowhere else with a unique mix. ------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad! |
Posted By: AutumnAarilyn
Date Posted: 30 October 2019 at 9:16pm
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"What a fool..." was included in it's remixed form on 12
inch Dance: 70's Groove issued back in 2015. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UA3TB2K/ref=ppx_yo_ dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 30 October 2019 at 10:50pm
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Also, I believe (no pun intended) that the 12" Disco Mix was available commercially. If memory serves me correctly, my copy is a stock and not a promo. I think I have this one: https://www.discogs.com/The-Doobie-Brothers-What-A-Fool-Believes/release/1879678 - What A Fool Believes .
Great mix! ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 31 October 2019 at 11:23pm
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Yes, I can confirm "What A Fool Believes" was available
commercially. I bought mine at the local shop. MM |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 25 November 2019 at 12:03am
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I have a promo 12" of "Bizarre Love Triangle" by New Order that appears to have a unique edit labeled "Extended Edit." This has a listed and actual time of 4:58, and it's a straight edit of the longer 12" Extended Mix. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: VWestlife
Date Posted: 17 October 2020 at 9:58am
The radio version edits the spoken intro of the LP version down to only the lines in bold: We got it together, didn't we? We definitely got our thing together, don't we baby? Isn't that nice? I mean, when you really sit and think about it, isn't it really, really nice? I can easily feel myself slipping more and more ways Slip in world of my own Nobody but you and me We've got it together, baby ...and then matches the 45 version from when the beat kicks in until the end. This is the version that I've heard on WCBS-FM in New York City and many other radio stations, but does not seem to have ever been commercially released. I made my own copy of it by editing the intro of the LP version from "Barry White's Greatest Hits" and then adding it onto the 45 version from "All-Time Greatest Hits". |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 17 October 2020 at 4:58pm
45 version (it matches the 3:31 45 versions listed in the online database). ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 19 October 2020 at 1:05am
Can the short radio edit not be created by using one source? I'm not clear - why did you make your short version from 2 sources? |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 19 October 2020 at 1:06am
| (sorry - my post got listed twice) |
Posted By: VWestlife
Date Posted: 22 October 2020 at 5:18pm
Because those were the two sources I have on CD: the full LP version (on "Barry White's Greatest Hits", and the 1975 short remix/edit that lacks the spoken intro (on "All-Time Greatest Hits" and "Pure Disco"). |