Diesel - Sausalito Summernight
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Topic: Diesel - Sausalito Summernight
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Subject: Diesel - Sausalito Summernight
Date Posted: 27 September 2010 at 9:11am
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I tried doing a custom edit of this some years ago, and I think I came VERY close. But it was difficult to reproduce the tail end of the guitar solo edit - into the final chorus (which ends up being at 2:15 on my edit, matching the 45).
Was this a layered or remixed edit, or was it a straight splice? I think that the LP version can be used as a source, but it seems to need to have the drum roll mixed over the guitar tail out, no? It's what I ended up doing. Does anyone know the edit instructions of that particular edit point? I know all of the rest of them. ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 27 September 2010 at 9:32am
| I wasn't able to edit the LP version because of that same edit you mention. I tried to overlap two sections, but I think they they might have used an acapella "all aboard" to overlap the guitar ending rather than mixing two parts of the song together. |
Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 27 September 2010 at 12:24pm
Same here. I tried to find another appearance of the "all aboard" vocal from elsewhere in the song that could be used for that segue, but alas, those few seconds appear to be unique to the 45 version. Strange that they went to the trouble, because the edit still sounds abrupt with the tail end of the guitar solo still audible when it cuts in on the second syllable of "aboard". To this day I wonder why the song didn't chart higher. I thought it was quite catch; however, the 45 edit could have done a better job in shortening the song without chopping out so much. |
aaronk wrote:Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 27 September 2010 at 1:12pm
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The few times I heard this on the air back then, it was the LP version. Can't remember who in New York City played it, though.
There were a handful of 45s around 1981-1982 that did a great disservice to the songs (my opinion, of course) by cutting up otherwise imaginative breaks and solos. The 45 of "On The Loose" by Saga springs to mind, which cuts the solo in half and eliminates the excellent and very memorable keyboard-doubling-with-the-guitar part. "Fantasy" by Aldo Nova used a completely different guitar solo for the 45, with half the length of the LP version solo. Both the Saga and Aldo Nova tracks would have been under 4 minutes if they had stuck with the album version (cutting off the helicopter intro for "Fantasy"). I doubt that the shortening helped the tracks get any more airplay than they would have gotten otherwise. I know 5+ minutes for the Diesel song may be too long for a single, but I think they could have come closer to 4 minutes while leaving the break intact. Just a minor gripe. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 27 September 2010 at 1:21pm
| Another gripe. All CD copies I've heard of this song have excessive noise/hiss reduction applied. I ended up dubbing my copy from the vinyl LP. |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 27 September 2010 at 1:34pm
| Really? I have the One Way release of Watts In A Tank from 2002 - I'll have to listen more closely tonight to see if there's NR on there. |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 27 September 2010 at 2:37pm
Same here! I ran out and bought it the minute I heard it on the radio. Regency Records had just switched distribution at the time the single came out; a Billboard magazine article at the time indicated that the single didn't happen at all until Atlantic took over distribution from MCA. If that was the case, I'm surprised that any significant number of the copies pressed by MCA - including the one I bought - made it into the pipeline after the record had really taken off. |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 27 September 2010 at 3:02pm
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FYI - Some label scans.
The single as originally released on Regency 96001: http://crapfromthepast.com/favorites/sights/dieseloriginalaside.jpg - A-side / http://crapfromthepast.com/favorites/sights/dieseloriginalbside.jpg - B-side The more common pressing on Regency 7339: http://crapfromthepast.com/favorites/sights/dieselrereleaseaside.jpg - A-side / http://crapfromthepast.com/favorites/sights/dieselrereleasebside.jpg - B-side |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 27 September 2010 at 5:50pm
The LP and 45 is very hissy, especially for a song released in 1981. Perhaps the disc you have keeps the hiss in tact, but I've heard it from two different CD sources, and they both have lots of NR. |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 27 September 2010 at 7:42pm
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Yup. The One Way release has NR. :(
I do remember the vinyl being hissy, and always thought it added to the charm of the song somehow. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 27 September 2010 at 8:28pm
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I wouldn't mind if the hiss were reduced, but the NR artifacts on the CD
versions are less than desirable. I'd rather have all the hiss than the "watery" sound that the CD versions have in some spots. |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 27 September 2010 at 9:27pm
Interestingly, I found an MP3 back in the days of KaZaA (circa 2001) that was basically the same edit as the 45-rpm disc, except they left 4 measures of the second part of the guitar solo (which is omitted on the 45-rpm disc). It may have made a better 45 than the actual edit. ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 27 September 2010 at 9:28pm
Wow! In Canada, both the LP and 45 discs were on RCA. ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 02 October 2010 at 4:30am
You strike me as a big fan of Canadian music, no? We rarely hear those edits any more, and again, those songs are played on Classic Rock for the most part now. ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 02 October 2010 at 8:54am
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Yup - BIG fan of Canadian pop/rock. Good call!
Saga, Jane Child, Chilliwack, Prism, Barenaked Ladies, the Kings, Gino Vannelli, Cheri, Terrence and Phillip, Frozen Ghost, Iam Thomas, Kim Mitchell, Honeymoon Suite, the Extras, Kon Kan, Klaatu, Terry Jacks, Ray Conniff... Don't know what it is about the pop stuff from up north, but it really hits the sweet spot for me. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 02 October 2010 at 12:54pm
| Terrence and Phillip? I didn't realize there was a band by that name. I only know of the obscene cartoon characters on South Park. |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 02 October 2010 at 4:31pm
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It's really just the South Park characters, but Atlantic released a CD single for "Uncle F**ka":
Terrance and Phillip (note correct spelling here and my misspelling above) - Uncle F**ka (that's how it's spelled) Atlantic PRCD 9051, released 1999 1. WEBN/Jay Gilbert "Bleeped Sound Effect" Version - printed 1:01 2. WXRK/NY Version/Cane & Altar Boy - printed 1:04 And yes, I played this on the air quite a bit! |
Posted By: RichM921
Date Posted: 02 October 2010 at 6:56pm
I don't think airplay coverage was as good as it could have been. I don't recall ever hearing this song on the radio in 1981. I never heard it until it popped up on '80s CDs in the late '90s. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 02 October 2010 at 11:43pm
I was also surprised when I learned about the low peak position of "Sausalito Summernight." My dad bought this 45 for me when I was only 3 years old, and I played it to death. I wonder how he knew about it. Another 45 he bought for me around the same time was "Breaking Away" by Balance. Both of those 45s have always been favorites of mine. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 02 October 2010 at 11:46pm
That's funny. I used to know most of the words to that song, and I remember the promo single coming in to the station where I used to work. I honestly didn't think you were putting these guys in the same list as some of those other much more noteworthy Canadian bands. And technically speaking, they are Americans (voiced by the creators of South Park) portrayed as a Canadians. |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 03 October 2010 at 7:50am
------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 03 October 2010 at 10:06am
There were a number of high profile releases from big acts within a 1-2 month window in the fall of 1981: Journey, Foreigner, Pat Benatar, Stevie Nicks, Rod Stewart, Hall & Oates, The Police. Radio and the labels were working the first singles from those albums very heavily. I wonder if that contributed to several great singles from one-off acts getting lost in the shuffle (Diesel, Balance, also "Don't Give It Up" from Robbie Patton and "My Girl (Gone Gone Gone)" from Chilliwack were memorable). The charts were crowded with singles from name acts with few singles from new acts charting Top 10 during those months ("Harden My Heart" from Quarterflash is one of the few that comes to mind). |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 04 September 2022 at 2:38pm
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It took me 20 years to find, but I managed to locate a CD in the Netherlands called Dutch Pop History Vol. II with "Sausalito Summernight." It's the LP version from tape with no evidence of noise reduction. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 27 September 2022 at 6:26am
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The original recording is from the Netherlands. Released
there on Polydor. 2050 633 the catalog number. Wish I owned one of those. Own the USA Regency 45, the second Atlantic/Atco distributed version. I think if this hadn't changed distributors, might have been promoted better and had a better chance of a hit . ------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad! |