Les Crane - "Desiderata"
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Topic: Les Crane - "Desiderata"
Posted By: jrjr
Subject: Les Crane - "Desiderata"
Date Posted: 16 May 2009 at 9:30am
| promo singe WB 7520, mono/stereo, time both sides, 3:58, list the song title as "THE Desiderata"... the song starts out with a bad edit of the LP version and credits composition to producer Fred Werner... history tell us, however, that "Desiderata" was a poen written by Max Ehrmann in 1908... seems like 1971 was a big year for spoken-record hit singles... anyone checked out "Once they Understand" by Think, lately??? |
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 16 May 2009 at 9:47am
| The song by Think has been on collector's lists for decades from what I've read. |
Posted By: jrjr
Date Posted: 16 May 2009 at 10:46am
| sorry about that: it's actually "Once You Understand" by Think... it's beyond me why that song in a collector's item... it's rather lame... |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 16 May 2009 at 11:01am
| The only version of "Desiderata" I ever played or heard up until the Napster era was the 45; hence the extra humor in the "you are a fluke of the universe" intro on National Lampoon's "Deteriorata" was lost on me for all those years. Can't say as I ever thought the Crane 45 started out with a bad edit. |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 16 May 2009 at 11:17am
| I use the Think song as a torture device on the air! (Along with "Dear Mr. Jesus", which we've covered in another thread...) |
Posted By: jrjr
Date Posted: 16 May 2009 at 4:26pm
| on the stereo side of the promo 45, there's clearly a tad of the LP intro which they didn't exorcise with a sharp enough razor blade: it's not much but it's there (listen on cans)... the version i have of Think was obtained by a pal from unknown (to me) sources and is mono... but, i have also heard a stereo version on youtube... if anyone cares, is there a difference? hey, crapfromthepast, how about adding "the teddy bear song" to your on air torure devices?!? |
Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 17 May 2009 at 1:18pm
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I have the stereo Once You Understand from a vinyl dub from a collector friend. Sounds nice (well....). ------------- dc1 |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 17 May 2009 at 2:30pm
"Once You Understand" is apparently available on the Ace import CD http://www.amazon.com/Dead-Grim-Reapers-Greatest-Hits/dp/B000E6ENYE/ref=sr_1_1/176-4732470-9062807?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1242594672&sr=1-1 - Dead! The Grim Reaper's Greatest Hits . |
eriejwg wrote:Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 17 May 2009 at 6:37pm
What's even harder to "understand" is why this was re-issued in (I think) 1974. I'll have to check in my awful-records-I-never-listen-to-but-can't-bring-myself-to-th row-out box, but I'm pretty sure I have it on an Atlantic-distributed Big Tree single. |
Posted By: bwolfe
Date Posted: 18 May 2009 at 7:16am
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Exactly right!
I found a never played promo copy at one of the stations we purchased a few years ago. 1971 seemed to be the end of spoken-word stuff until "The Americans" in 1974. The only 1971 spoken word record that still stops me in my tracks is Tom Clay's "What the World Needs Now." I was eight years old when I heard it back then and it still packs a lot of emotion. ------------- the way it was heard on the radio |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 12 January 2019 at 9:57pm
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After 10+ years of dormancy...
Not sure what the opening note of the actual 45 sounds like. The 45 version on Varese Sarabande's Dick Bartley On The Radio Vol. 3 (1998) starts really cleanly. Same for Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 31 Mellow Hits Of The '70s (2000), which is digitally exactly 2 dB quieter. The corresponding location in the LP version (I have it on Reader's Digest's 4-CD American Pie (1998)) has the tail end of a long note held from the 18-second intro. The Varese 45 version can't be edited down from the LP version because of that note. I'm not sure exactly what to do with that information. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 13 January 2019 at 9:52pm
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good catch, Ron.
So, we'd need a 45 to see if the start is clean, like it is on the CD "Dick Bartley On The Radio Vol. 3". Anyone have? ------------- dc1 |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 14 January 2019 at 9:39pm
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As jrjr mentioned upthread, the 45 does start with an off-kilter edit, but it's because the vocals in the left and right channels aren't in sync at that exact spot. They begin in the right channel a hair before they do in the left, and if you trim both channels to where the left channel vocal kicks in, the result is a chopped-off intro. Consequently, there's a hanging chad of that album version note in the left channel's open, which, although it sounds a bit choppy, definitely sounds better than being Marie Antoinetted. In any case, the left channel does not begin with a clear harpsichord note (if that's what it is.)
It's the same on the mono side of the promo 45, but since the channels are summed together, it isn't all that obvious. Having only played the stereo side on mono AM back in the day, I never noticed that anything nefarious was underfoot. The On The Radio Volume 3 CD track begins with a clear and distinct harpsichord note in the left channel, and both vocal tracks are in sync. Here's what the Varese folks did: they excised the initial "Desider..." from the 45's cold opening, then copied the next, similar "Desider..." segment that begins at about six seconds into the 45 (about 1.125 in length) and pasted it in place of the initial one. They did a seamless job, and it really does improve the edit. However - as the official T40MOCD laws have long decreed - it ain't the 45. |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 15 January 2019 at 5:25am
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My stock 45 of "Desiderata" (green label 7520 - matrix PCA0553 S) is stereo and has a clean start.
Andy |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 14 January 2025 at 1:48pm
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"Desiderata" was released on a promo 45 with one side in English and one side in Spanish. Has anyone ever found the Spanish version on CD?
Ok I'll beat you to it. Why would anyone want to hear this is Spanish? ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 14 January 2025 at 6:10pm
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6 years later, since Andy's commercial 45 starts with a
clean intro, is it possible that the 45 version with the bad edit is a first pressing and they corrected it later with a different pressing? ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: cristianmdp
Date Posted: 14 January 2025 at 6:22pm
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No idea why would anyone would want to hear "Desiderata"
in spanish (lol), but I can say the spanish version of it was the only version played on the radio down here in Argentina (and I have a copy of it). This one: https://www.discogs.com/release/23232440 Makes sense. It's a spoken word single that was recorded in english. People would not understand its words in a spanish-speaking country so someone decided to record someone else reading it in spanish. The choir though is the original one, sung in english. And I have never known of any CD featuring the spanish version. |
Posted By: cristianmdp
Date Posted: 14 January 2025 at 6:31pm
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It was released on CD in 1997:
https://www.discogs.com/release/31922716 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP3-Y4Womd8 |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 14 January 2025 at 7:16pm
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Amazing Cris. Many thanks amigo. ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |