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Topic: updates for database
Posted By: EdisonLite
Subject: updates for database
Date Posted: 31 October 2005 at 8:35am
While the database was up and running, I made some notes about incomplete entries --
"Two Doors Down" - Dolly Parton -- all listings should read "single version". The album version (from the "Here You Come Again" LP) has yet to appear on any CD (including the CD of that LP).
"What About Me" - Moving Pictures -- there's a single and album version of this song (mix differences). I believe only the single version has come out on CD and should be listed as such in the book.
"King of the Hill" - Oak -- you wrote "single length", but it should be "single version". If you compare the single and album versions, you'll notice on the last sung note, "hill", the instrumentation drops down on the single version but not on the album version, to showcase the singer's long held note presumably. Also, during the instrumental fadeout, the brass is louder on the single mix.
"The Sign" -- Ace of Base -- some CDs contain an extra pickup note before the intro which is not on the single version. (I don't have the album version but I assume the one with the extra note is the album version.)
Pat, do you agree with all these assessments?
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Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 9:03pm
I know Halloween was yeterday but I know I corrected the Dolly Parton entry and even mentioned it in the old errata page.
With regards to the Ace Of Base, I have the cassette single and the cd "The Sign" and there is no difference between them. Does anyone else have a version with a pickup note?
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 4:35pm
I did a little more research with the Ace of Base CDs I have -- and there are two different versions of "The Sign." The promo CD single (ASCD-2653) starts right on the downbeat, but "Platinum and Gold" and "Greatest Hits" have these two extra "pickup" drumbeats before the downbeat (i.e. that preface the main part of the song, as based on the dj version).
However, Pat, you have none of the CDs I have, and I have neither your CD or cassette!
So there are 2 possible conclusions here -- either there's a dj version (with 2 less intro drumbeats) -- or your CD album and cassette single are identical to my dj CD single (the less-drums version), meaning that the versions on "Platinum And Gold" and "Greatest Hits" should be called "Neither the single or album versions."
Which intro is on your 2 versions?
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Posted By: JMD1961
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 5:44pm
I just noticed that the Air Supply hit "Just As I Am" is listed in 1983, when it should be listed in 1985.
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Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 8:16pm
I don't hear the mix differences you mention Gordon on "What About Me". Can you detail more specifically the mix differences you hear?
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Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 8:44pm
The version of "The Sign" on "Platinum & Gold" and "Greatest Hits" does not match the cassette single or the version found on "The Sign" cd on the introduction. I believe the version on "Platinum & Gold" and "Greatest Hits" is missing a fraction of a second of the introduction but I will let the editing wizards tackle that question.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 8:57pm
To me, the two versions start very differently -- the one with the two extra drum hits sounds very jarring if you're familiar with the single/album version. Does anyone else have both versions and hear the differences on the introductions?
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Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 9:56pm
Yes I agree they are very different but I think one is just a fraction of a second shorter than the other.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 12:05am
The two extra "pre-song" drumbeats probably only last about one second, so this alternate version isn't dramatically different time-wise, but hearing two loud drumbeats preceding the song as we know it certainly would warrant a "neither the single or LP version" comment. If a person wanted to edit the single/album version from this alternate version, they would simply have to edit out the first two pickup drumbeats and start the song on the downbeat.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 3:29am
Pat & EdisonLite, you seem to be disagreeing on how the intro begins. Pat says it's too short (the first second or so was clipped off), while EdisonLite says it has two "extra" drum beats. Which is it? I don't own either of the CDs with the problematic intro.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 10:31am
That's an interesting point. I have "Platinum & Gold" and "Greatest Hits" as well as the dj cd single, and from that, I can say that the versions on P&G and GH have longer intros.
Pat, when you say --
"I believe the version on "Platinum & Gold" and "Greatest Hits" is missing a fraction of a second of the introduction "
are you saying that if you edited out the first two drum beats, you cannot get the single/album version because a fraction of the true intro would be missing?
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Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 11:28am
I will leave the editing comment up to our mixmasters to determine whether the introduction starts early or late on the "Platinum & Gold" and "Greatest Hits" cd's (plus others you can see now in the database). My time is consumed right now with entering data that I could not enter for the past two weeks while the database was down.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 1:03am
The hit "Voices Carry" is listed in the database as performed by JOHNNY TILLOTSON instead of 'TIL TUESDAY. There must have been some kind of error when you uploaded it to the server.
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 4:37pm
I have "What About Me" by Moving Pictures on two CDs: Then '80s - Totally Oldies 5 (Varese Sarabande 302066444) and Moving Pictures' Days of Innocence CD, which I believe has only been issued in Canada (UniDisc AGEK-2069). I did an A/B comparison between the two CDs and noticed some subtle differences. I concur with EdisonLite's comments that the Then '80s disc contains drum hits underneath the guitar licks during the intro. These drum hits are absent on the Innocence CD. Also, the midrange is boosted way up in the mix on the Then '80s disc. I don't know if this is reflective of the EQ on the actual 45 or if this is the way the song was mastered for this particular CD. I'm going to try to acquire an vinyl 45 copy of "What About Me" and compare it to the Then '80s CD. If they match up, then this disc should probably have a (45 version) comment added next to it in the database.
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Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 5:56am
Pat,
my copy of "Beautiful People: The Greatest Hits Of Melanie" has "Peace Will Come (According To Plan)" in mono, yet you indicate stereo? Different pressing or mistake?
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Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 1:31pm
David,
I just listened to "Peace Will Come" by Melanie and it does sound mono on my headphones but when I look at an oscilloscope trace it looks like very poor stereo separation. Could someone that has the software, widen this song to see if it really has stereo separation?
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Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 1:34pm
Todd,
I can send you the 45 version taken from vinyl of "What About Me" as well as the vinyl LP version if you need them.
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 3:52pm
Pat:
Sure, feel free to send me mp3s of both. Thanks!
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 20 November 2005 at 11:35pm
I just got around to doing an A/B comparison of the vinyl 45 and vinyl LP version of "What About Me" that Pat was kind enough to e-mail me as mp3 files. I found them both to be identical. This inspired me to go back and more closely re-listen to the song on the Then '80s - Totally Oldies 5 and Moving Pictures' Days of Innocence import CDs. It turns out the drum hits actually do appear during the song's intro on both CDs... It's just harder to hear them on the import disc because of the way it's equalized (EQed), but the drum hits are there. And for the record, the EQ on the Then '80s CD most closely resembles the EQ of the 45 and LP.
Now, EdisonLite also graciously e-mailed me an mp3 copy of the alternative mix of "What About Me" he speaks about earlier in this thread. I listened to it and it does sound like it was remixed. The drums are definitely more prominent in this mix and the EQ is considerably different. EdisonLite says he got this mix from a friend who downloaded it off Napster, but neither EdisonLite nor I know where this mix originally first surfaced.
But anyway, to sum up the main point... the 45 and LP version of "What About Me" are the same and thus no distinction needs to be noted in the database.
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Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 21 November 2005 at 6:50pm
Re: What About Me - Moving Pictures...
I'm sure it was mentioned that there were two (2) different releases for that song, the original Network 45 in 1982, and the re-release in 1989 on Geffen.
I seem to recall it wa the Geffen 45 in 1989 that was remixed. Is that the version you have Gordon?
-Mark M
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 21 November 2005 at 11:39pm
I have the Geffen promo CD single from 1989 and it is exactly the same as the 1982 45. So I have no idea how the "alternate mix" came to be floating around out there. And incidentally, my friend didn't get it off Napster, but another internet website.
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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 03 December 2005 at 4:03pm
i just listened to the 45 versus the cd version from days of innocence and they are identical...
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Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 12 December 2005 at 7:41pm
Pat, some comments for you to consider as I delve deep into your database:
Classic Rock Superstars
Sony Music Special Products 26373
You list BIG BROTHER and THE HOLDING COMPANY (see also JANIS JOPLIN) - PIECE OF MY HEART
1968 (S) (4:28) (:15 longer than the LP version)
---> My copy has Me And Bobby McGee (LP version) on there!
SPYDER TURNER
1967 STAND BY ME
---> I have compared the LP version with that of On The Radio Volume Six and I believe them to be the exact same version, vocal take too (how long is the 45 edit?). The On The Radio Volume Six edit removes from :39 to 1:20, 1:43 to 2:00, 2:21 to 3:19 (James Brown, Eddie Kendricks, Melvin Franklin), 3:58 to 4:18 (Sam Cooke) and fades a few seconds early. So it should read "edit of the LP version"
You list DON GARDNER and DEE DEE FORD
1962 I NEED YOUR LOVING
(S) (5:43) Ripete 2392192 Beach Music Anthology Box Set (rerecording)
---> I've a-b'd these and I believe the longer one simply has an extended beginning (as if the master was that long and they made the single from 2:50 onward (with the female voice mixed lower during the opening few seconds of the single) and is a different mix. My version is clipped, but that was easy to fix too!
you list LEE ANDREWS and THE HEARTS
1957 LONG LONELY NIGHTS
(S) (2:52) Garland 012 Remember When (rerecording).
---> I a-b'd mine with the version on The Doo Wop Box and I believe them to be the same.
you list SHANGRI-LAS
1964 LEADER OF THE PACK
(S) (2:49) Era 5025 The Brill Building Sound (missing the line “one day my dad said find someone new”; missing two bars of the instrumental break) ,
---> my copy DOES have the two bars of the instrumental break - it's the mono ones that don't
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Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 13 December 2005 at 8:55pm
David you have made some interesting comments and they bring up additional questions that need to be addressed. but in order of your questions:
1)Piece Of My Heart on the "Classic Rock Superstars" cd--as you point out this shoud really be "Me And bobby McGee". Stayed up a little late entering data on that listing I guess.
2) Spyder Turner - Stand By Me. We can argue all night about the vocal take but rather than do that, please note the new comment that I just entered for that song. The mono 45 has some different brass overdubs than the LP. Check out the segment from 1:27 to 1:31 on the 45. The LP has different brass than the 45 so the version on the Varese cd was simply an edit of the LP version in an unsuccessful attempt at recreating the 45.
3) Don Gardner and Dee Dee Ford -- After listening again, the version on Ripete does sound like an extended stereo mix that I don't believe has ever shown up anywhere else but on the Ripete cd. I have written to Curtiss Carpenter to prod him to comment on the source of this extended version and let's hope that he can shed some light on this entry.
4) Lee Andrews and the Hearts "Long Lonely Nights" -- Well here is a good one for you. The cd jacket states this song is stereo and came from a 1966 45 release on Karen Records which would make it a rerecording. But upon listening this evening, I note the song is mono and is the original 1957 Chess release. Moral of the story is not to believe everything you read on the cd jacket.
5) Shangri-Las "Leader Of The Pack" -- Now we need to get to the bottom of this mystery. My box set has the stereo version of "Leader Of The Pack" and the segment from 1:00 to 1:10 (on the mono versions)is definitely missing. To the best of my knowledge it is missing on all stereo versions of this song. Does your box set have this song in stereo with the segment that goes "one day my dad said find someone new?"
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Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 14 December 2005 at 6:16am
Hi Pat,
Glad to be of some input. Only a couple comments:
2) Spyder Turner. no need to argue, we've agreed! I don't have the 45 (another contender for Eric), but I do believe the On The Radio version is an edit of the LP length... as you point out.
5) Shangri-las. again, we've agreed. I had pointed out that my stereo version on the box has the full instrumental break. It is indeed missing the line "one day my dad said find someone new", as is all stereo versions up until the recent remixes.
cheers!
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Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 14 December 2005 at 8:18pm
Hi Guys,
Re: Leader Of The Pack:
David, here's the confusion; I also got from your post that monoversions are missing something. I think in Pat's description, he's pointing out that on the stereo mix, part of the music break that immediately precedes the missing line is also edited out.
All mono copies are the complete song.
The one CD that is the exception of course, is "The Red Bird/Blue Cat Story" on Taragon. That has a newer stereo mix that is unedited.
Re: I Need Your Lovin'.
The complete unedited version on the Beach Music Anthology is indeed the hit version. (with the 45 being part 2, the best way to describe it i guess)
I would not be surprised if Curtiss says it was provided by Walter Devenne. Walter had the multitrack and mixed the 45 version for stereo for the CD "Raging Harlem Hit Parade" on Relic. That was released shortly before the unedited mix surfaced on Ripete.
And from me, I'm really glad he gave it someone to release, because I LOVE the entire song. I had never heard the first half of it before that, it's great!
-Mark M
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Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 14 December 2005 at 9:04pm
One more time, re: Leader Of The Pack
Here's what I hear in the song:
From 1:43 to 1:51 of the old stereo mix are 4 bars of an instrumental Break. The new complete stereo remix from the Taragon CD also has 4 bars (but running from 1:51 to 1:59 there, since the earlier line "one day my dad said find someone new" is present where it is missing from the old stereo mix.
Now, the mono versions that I have (all clocking in at from 2:48 to 2:50) contain only 2 bars of the instrumental break from 1:49 to 1:53, and do contain the line "one day my dad said find someone new". My sources are "Growin' Up Too Fast The Girl Group Anthology" and "Billboard Top Rock'N'Roll Hits 1964".
So, the mono versions are not the complete song. Only the recent remix is. This really surprises me btw.
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 14 December 2005 at 9:55pm
davidclark wrote:
So, the mono versions are not the complete song. Only the recent remix is. This really surprises me btw. |
No, judging from Pat's listings, the full-length 2:57 mono version is on the out of print DCC "Best of Tragedy," which I fortunately own. (Thank you, Steve Hoffman, for using the correct tape!)
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Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 15 December 2005 at 6:16am
ahhh. good catch, Brian. It must be one of if not the only mono version that is complete (at least on a US CD). There's so many listings for the song that I missed it! ah well, on to other thoughts....
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Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 07 January 2006 at 12:29pm
more items for your consideration, Pat:
You list VANITY FARE
1970 HITCHIN' A RIDE
(S) (2:55) Collectables 5614 The Sun The Wind And Other Things (with LP ending but :09 shorter than the LP length; stereo LP mix)
(S) (2:55) Columbia 67380 O.S.T. Now And Then (with LP ending but :09 shorter than the LP length; stereo LP mix)
---> I believe these versions to be a remix (and shorter), as my original stereo vinyl LP has the same mix as the 45 fade version on On The Radio Volume one (which itself would become a stereo 45 mix I suppose)
You indicate HUES CORPORATION
1974 ROCK THE BOAT as LP length and 45 length.
---> Toward the end of the song the "Rock The Boat" vocals finish at 2:52 of the LP version but continue on the 45. This would make it “LP version” and “45 version”.
VILLAGE PEOPLE
1979 Y.M.C.A.
(S) (4:00) Time-Life SOD-19 Sounds Of The Seventies - 1979: Take Two
---> I believe this to be at least an alternate vocal
RICHIE HAVENS
1971 HERE COMES THE SUN
(S) (4:11) Five Star 1001 Live At The Cellar Door (this is the hit version but missing a guitar overdub
---> could you point me to the missing guitar overdub? I can't find it.
and finally, to help me:
what's the diff between the 45 and LP versions for:
PAUL SIMON
1976 50 WAYS TO LEAVE YOUR LOVER
LYNYRD SKYNYRD
1978 WHAT'S YOUR NAME
cheers!
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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 07 January 2006 at 12:36pm
I had asked the same question about "What's Your Name" a couple of months ago. I'll just requote what Paul Esch told me:
The 45 version of "What's Your Name" is a remix of the LP version. The horn section is more pronounced, and, I think, been added to. |
I'll second the "50 Ways" question--can the 45 be extracted from the LP?
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All of the good signatures have been taken.
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Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 07 January 2006 at 3:00pm
The LP version of "50 Ways" has a :05 longer introduction than the 45. You should be able to extract the 45 version by editing the LP version.
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Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 07 January 2006 at 6:36pm
Now to get back to David's input:
1) I have changed the database to reflect a remix on the cd's you mention and dropped the mono stereo mix differences on Hitchin' a Ride
2) Yep, there is a distinction between the 45 and LP version of Rock The Boat and the new entries have been posted
3)Yes, it appears the 4:00 versions in the database were all alternate vocal takes and they have been entered as such
4)Regarding Richie Havens "Here Comes The Sun" listen to the line from 2:49 to 2:55 "It seems Like Years Since It's Been Clear" on the Meet The Covers cd where you will hear the guitar and then compare to the same line from 2:58 to 3:03 on Live At The Cellar Door.
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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 07 January 2006 at 7:06pm
Pat,
One correction you may (or may not) want to make--while looikng at the updated entries for "Y.M.C.A." I saw a CD titled WPLJ Presents Scott and Ted Blast Off 2000. It's actually Scott and Todd. They're the AM drive team there (Scott Shannon also programs and voicetracks a syndicated oldies channel when not working at WPLJ).
And--for anyone who wants to chime in--getting back to "50 Ways," which part of the intro would I need to shave off?
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All of the good signatures have been taken.
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 08 January 2006 at 11:43am
You have good ears, David! I was listening to the Sounds Of The Seventies - 1979: Take Two CD not all that long ago and I remember thinking there was something about "Y.M.C.A." that sounded different!
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Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 08 January 2006 at 3:09pm
well, I gave a close listen to Richie Havens "Here Comes The Sun" and in the mono mix, there is what I believe to be an electric guitar sound (that sounds kinda like an organ) not only during the few seconds Pat mentions but throughout the song (I hear it at about :55 to :58 and it is very clear at 3:20 as well). Good ears Pat! I do believe the mix on the Varese CD is missing the overdub too... Did the single indeed contain that overdub? Maybe it was added after the session in the club? Anyone know?
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Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 7:53pm
Hi All,
Ah, glad someone mentioned the alternate vocal version, because I haven't seen that mentioned on the entries in Pat's book.
Shortly after the lead singer was replaced (if i recall, by his brother)the new singer re-cut the lead vocal track over the same backing track. This version has persistently turned up on some early cd's.
I don't recall every one, but I'm sure of the 2-cd set "Dancin' The Night Away" on Silver Eagle/Warner SP. There were a few others, but I'd have to go thru them. I guess that above mentioned Time/Life disc is yet another appearance.
And hey, thanks David for pointing out the differences on Rock The Boat, I never noticed the mixing differences.
-MM
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Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 7:09am
Yes David, the single version of "Here Comes The Sun" does contain that guitar overdub.
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Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 9:14pm
The listing in the database for Bob Seger's Tryin' To Life My Life Without You should read "LP Version" instead of "LP length". The 45 contains an edit (the last chorus is omitted).
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 6:09pm
<I will leave the editing comment up to our mixmasters to determine whether the introduction starts early or late on the "Platinum & Gold" and "Greatest Hits" cd's>
I was upgrading "The Sign" today, and I finally got to the bottom of this. My ears (or mind?) had played tricks on me before and I can now verify that the version on "P&G" and "GH" is missing the first beat of the song; in other words, it comes in on beat 2, where the snare drum hits, and what's been deleted is beat one which is a kick drum followed by a high-hat cymbal. Therefore, the database can be updated to more accurately report that "the intro is clipped" on these 2 CDs (and others.)
Incidentally, the wrong version on these 2 CDs is mastered so much better than the actual promo CD single, that rather than re-EQ'ing the single to attempt to match the EQ & compression on these later releases, I found a way to edit the clipped-intro version and restore the missing parts.
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 12:41am
Pat, all listings of "Please Please Me" by the Beatles should have the note: "Contains additional reverb not found on the 45."
There are whole threads about this matter on the Steve Hoffman site. Both the original UK Parlophone and US Vee-Jay singles of "Please Please Me" were bone dry, no reverb at all. When their first album was released, echo was added to the song for the album. Even on the CD singles and EP boxes, the incorrect tape was used for both the "A" and "B" side of that single. Steve Hoffman said he got so angry that the singles box used the wrong tape for that song he threw it out the window.
The original no-reverb single version has never been issued on CD.
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 12:48am
You also might want to make a note that all stereo versions of "Help" use a different take of the vocal in some parts of the song.
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 17 April 2006 at 10:17pm
Pat, I just noticed the update to Mariah Carey's "Someday," how the cassette single used the LP version.
Yes and no. I personally owned (though I don't think I do any longer) two separate cassette singles of the song (one was purchased as part of a lot on Ebay). One had the LP Version, and the other used the 7" New Jackswing mix. Both were two-track cassettes with the same B-side and the EXACT same catalog number on the sleeve. I can't recall of the cassette shell itself indicated which version it was. But both were definitely US pressings.
I believe (though I'm not positive) that all 45s used the LP Version.
You should update the comment that some cassettes were mastered with the LP Version while others used the 7" New Jackswing Mix.
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 23 April 2006 at 11:23am
Pat, "Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head" on "A Year in Your Life 1970 Vol 2" is not mono as listed in the database. It sounds mono until the orchestra comes in, then it's wide stereo. You might check to see if this is the same case on the "Straight from the Heart" CD.
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 22 May 2006 at 7:03pm
Chuck Miller's recent post about "Straight Up" got me wondering...
So I did an Ebay search for Mariah's "Someday" on vinyl, and lo and behold: three different copies, all US pressings, that use the 7" Jackswing mix instead of the LP version, and all of them with "Alone in Love" as the B-side.
(I suppose these could be like some cassette single pressings and claim the remix when they're really the LP version.)
http://cgi.ebay.com/MARIAH-CAREY-SOMEDAY-NEW-7-JACKSWING-45_ W0QQitemZ4865178072QQcategoryZ306QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
http://cgi.ebay.com/MARIAH-CAREY-Someday-USA-7-vinyl_W0QQite mZ4872633986QQcategoryZ58673QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie wItem#ebayphotohosting
http://cgi.ebay.com/MARIAH-CAREY-SOMEDAY-New-7-Jackswing-Alo ne-in-Love-45_W0QQitemZ4769642420QQcategoryZ306QQssPageNameZ WD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 22 May 2006 at 7:42pm
I have the "Someday" US promo and commercial CD singles. If it's any help:
The promo CD's lead track is the album version, followed by the 7" Jackswing.
But on the commercial CD single, the 7" Jackswing is the first track, and the album version is not included.
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Posted By: cmmmbase
Date Posted: 23 May 2006 at 11:56am
I have 2 different stock 45s of Mariah Carey's "Someday"
One with the regular lp version, and one with the New Jack Swing Version. Both have the same B-side and same catalog number.
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Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 08 May 2011 at 11:56pm
I have taken a listen to Richie Havens - Here Comes The Sun from Super
Hits Vol. 5, Live At The Cellar Door and Then: Totally Oldies 70's, Vol. 6. The
stereo mixes are missing the organ or chimes-like overdub that begins
approx. when he sings the line "It seems Like Years Since It's Been Clear"
lasting for approx. 30 seconds. The database needs updating for Then:
Totally Oldies 70's, Vol. 6.
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Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 09 May 2011 at 7:58am
David, the cd "The: Totally Oldies" is missing several overdubs and rather than detailing all of them, that fact is covered with the current comment of "remixed".
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 02 August 2013 at 10:50pm
The song Here I Am (Come and Take Me) is mistakenly listed as mono on the Right Stuff CD "Take Me to the River." It's narrower stereo than some of the other issues, but a quick listen with headphones will reveal that it is indeed true stereo.
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