Bob Seger 45 versions
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Topic: Bob Seger 45 versions
Posted By: sriv94
Subject: Bob Seger 45 versions
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 7:01pm
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Hadn't seen any postings about this, so I might as well ask. Much of Bob Seger's catalogue is only available in their LP versions (including cases where the 45 and LP are identical). As far as I know, only "Night Moves" was issued on CD in its 45 mix/edit (on the FM soundtrack).
I was able to create an edit of "We've Got Tonight," but I'm not sure if I nailed it (I know what the time should be, but I'm not totally sure where the edit exactly comes in). And I'm not sure if I've ever heard the 45 of "You'll Accomp'ny Me." I'm pretty sure that you can't quite edit "Against The Wind" from the LP to get the 45 (I think there's one either overdub or extra note right at the first edit, although you can make the edits at the end pretty easily). Anyone able to fill in the blanks? ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
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Posted By: Paul Esch
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 1:37pm
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The edit for "We've Got Tonite" (which is the original spelling on the
45), it occurs at approximately the 3:06.5 mark, on the beat between the penultimate and last lines. From there, edit out everything until the last :28. The edit for "You'll Accomp'ny Me" occurs about two-thirds of the way through. At the part of the LP version where the chorus is repeated three times before the final vamp-out, edit out the second chorus where Bob sings "Out where the river meets the sounding sea." You're right about "Against The Wind" not being simply edited to get the 45 version. On the 45 version, the instrumental break is edited out, but on the LP version, the last note of the guitar overlaps the beginning of Bob's singing. That note is not on the 45. |
Posted By: Paul Esch
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 1:37pm
| Also, check the posting for "American Storm" in single edits vs. single mixes |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 2:28pm
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Thanks, Paul. Much appreciated. ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 30 October 2005 at 4:41pm
| Question about the dj45 of "Even Now" -- was it edited or simply faded earlier? |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 30 October 2005 at 6:57pm
OK, quick question. Does the line "someday, lady, you'll accomp'ny me, you will accompany me" remain on the single version, or is that edited out? I created an edit that keeps most of that first chorus, then jumps to that line before it goes to the final minute-long vamp out. (That chorus is only sung twice, which threw me for a moment.) ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Paul Esch wrote:Posted By: Paul Esch
Date Posted: 31 October 2005 at 2:53pm
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OK, slow response. Yes, that line remains, and should appear
approximately at the 2:28 mark. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 24 May 2009 at 6:46pm
| Just noticed that "Rock And Roll Never Forgets" is listed as LP Length. Does anyone have the proper beginning/ending fade points for the 45 length? |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 10:02am
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Here's another one about a lesser Seger hit--any way to replicate the 45 of "Katmandu" from the LP (I see a listed time on e-Bay of (3:12) for a 45, while the LP version runs (6:09))? ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 10:13am
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To 'sriv94':
Yes, I have edited the CD to create the 45 version (but with a slightly longer & less abrupt fade). There are quite a few edits; PM me if you would like to hear it. Andy |
Posted By: NightAire
Date Posted: 17 November 2010 at 12:53am
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Is the short DJ edit of "Like A Rock" just an early fade? ------------- Gene Savage http://www.BlackLightRadio.com - http://www.BlackLightRadio.com http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage - http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage Tulsa, Oklahoma USA |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 17 November 2010 at 8:06am
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No, there is an out-of-sequence edit on the promo version for "Like A Rock." It's right near the end before the DJ 45 fades; they took a very short (but famous) section of the song and spliced it into an earlier part. It's the ad lib "ooooohhhh like a rock" that was heard in the Chevy truck commercial. If they had just done an early fade, that part would not have appeared on the DJ 45.
At about 4:10, the DJ version goes like this: Carrying the weight Like a rock Oooooohhhhh like a rock Oh, like a rock The sun upon my skin It's not a terribly difficult edit to do, but it's hard to do without hearing an actual copy of it. |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 24 November 2011 at 4:54pm
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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 01 February 2012 at 9:16pm
I'm not so sure they got the edit right. For one thing, the 45 is slower than the LP--this edit seems to match the LP pitch. For another thing, it doesn't sound like the edit's in the right spot. As an aside, Pat's database shows the Ultimate Hits CD has the LP version. Unless there are multiple pressings, it doesn't. But it doesn't mean it has the 45 either. ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 01 February 2012 at 9:19pm
A little bit of both. There's an edit in the intro (might be others, but I know of that one for sure) and it's faded earlier. ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 02 February 2012 at 2:49pm
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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 02 February 2012 at 8:42pm
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Pat now has "We've Got Tonite" listed as the 45 version on Ultimate Hits, but I remain unconvinced. It sounds to me like the edit is made on the word "stay" at (3:13), while based on Paul was saying above the edit should come in at (3:07).
And I'm almost positive the 45 was pitched down a bit, although it still runs (3:36). That would mean the fade on Ultimate Hits was extended about 2-3 seconds. ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 03 February 2012 at 2:09pm
| On my commercial 45, the word "stay" occurs at 3:13 and on the Ultimate Hits it also occurs at 3:13. Yes the 45 was pitched slightly slower than the LP for some reason and yes the appearance on the Ultimate Hits is the LP pitch but as far as I can tell it is the 45 edit of "We've Got Tonight". |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 03 February 2012 at 2:15pm
Hi Pat. The word "stay" should be at (3:13)--it is on the LP version as well. However, I'm pretty sure Paul's right when he says the actual edit on the 45 occurs at the (3:07) mark (roughly). On the 45, there appear to be strings more at the forefront at (3:07) whereas on the Ultimate Hits version they're not there. If you can take another listen I'd appreciate it. ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 03 February 2012 at 4:31pm
| The strings are present on both the 45 and the Ultimate Hits cd and yes they are mixed louder on the 45 but they are still audible on the Ultimate Hits so you can call this a remixed 45 version if you wish. If you want me to send you an mp3 of the vinyl 45 I would be happy to do so. |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 04 February 2012 at 1:35pm
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Thanks, Pat. Sure, send it along (you should have my E-mail, if not, PM me). ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 06 February 2012 at 11:06am
| After some email exchanges with Doug, I have come to the conclusion that the version of We've Got Tonight on the "Ultimate Hits" cd is a noble attempt at recreating the 45 version but it is not precisely the 45 version. |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 16 May 2015 at 1:18am
I just popped in here to ask this very question. Anyone know about the promo edit? |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 16 May 2015 at 6:38am
It's an edit. It looks like there are a few edits in the track. I can reverse-engineer the edits if there's sufficient interest here. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 16 May 2015 at 6:51am
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ISTR there being a promo edit of "Hollywood Nights". Anyone
know the edit points on that, or was it just an early fade? |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 16 May 2015 at 10:49am
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I have an import CD single which has a shorter version
of "Hollywood Nights." I don't have access to my hard drives at the moment, (packed up for a wedding today), but I seem to recall it might be an edit or multiple edits. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 17 May 2015 at 9:09am
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The version I have runs 3:12 and fades. Not sure if it
matches the DJ edit on 45. |
Posted By: Bwci Bo
Date Posted: 30 October 2015 at 9:37pm
Re: Even Now
Ron, did you ever get around to doing this? I'm not sure if the previous posters still require these instructions, but I certainly do. Any chance you have them noted down somewhere? |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 31 October 2015 at 10:47am
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I set up a dedicated http://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8462 - thread for Even Now .
The promo 45 has one edit in the intro and an early fade. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 28 August 2016 at 4:12pm
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Not a top 40 hit, but the 45 for "The Horizontal Bop"
from Bob Seger has a listed time of 3:20. The album version runs 4:03. Anyone who has the 45, is it an early fade or edit(s)? If there are edits, can anyone specify where? |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 29 August 2016 at 7:18pm
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Thanks to Yah Shure for the assist, the 45 of "The
Horizontal Bop" is an early fade from 3:10-3:22. |
Posted By: NightAire
Date Posted: 23 July 2018 at 1:55am
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Was the radio version / commercial single versions of "Old Time Rock And Roll" the same as the album version?
Also, was the version that hit #48 on the charts in 1983 (after Risky Business) the same mix/length? I don't ever remember hearing any other version, but I've been surprised in the past so I thought I'd ask. ------------- Gene Savage http://www.BlackLightRadio.com - http://www.BlackLightRadio.com http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage - http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage Tulsa, Oklahoma USA |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 24 July 2018 at 4:23am
Yes, single/album versions exactly the same on both single releases. |
Posted By: eric_a
Date Posted: 08 September 2019 at 9:20pm
| I notice that the "Risky Business" soundtrack (which also includes Phil Collins' "In The Air Tonight") isn't listed in the DB. I think my copy may be an import, but was there never a domestic CD release? |
Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 10 September 2019 at 5:15am
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I never saw a domestic LP or CD of the "Risky Business"
soundtrack, only imports, usually from the UK. ------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad! |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 07 September 2020 at 8:39pm
| I'm comparing the 45 of Seger's "It's You" with the album/CD version on "Like a Rock". It's been said the single is different from the album, but I'm not hearing any mix differences. And maybe the single fades 1 second early, but that's not usually a reason for saying the single's different. Can someone tell me what the differences are between the single and labum of this? |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 08 September 2020 at 9:39am
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Gordon,
Hopefully Pat will chime in but I didn't see the song listed in the database. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 08 September 2020 at 11:01am
| Forgot to mention - if the song was its own thread I'd have listed it as O/T. It peaked below 40. At 52. So it won't be in the database. That's why I'm hoping someone here will know |
Posted By: garye
Date Posted: 09 September 2020 at 7:36pm
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I noticed a post from a few years back about "Hollywood
Nights". The promo 45 is 3:14 and the LP Version is 5:02. Listened again to both and the 45 is edited pretty heavy from the LP. I counted I think 6 edit points. The commercial single is the LP version. It sounds to me the promo is pitched up a little higher. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 11 September 2020 at 10:28pm
| Though a flac I received indicates "45 version" for "It's You" by Seger, I A-B'd it closely with the album version and find them to be identical in every way. So unless there's something minute I missed, there is no single version of "It's You". :) BTW, you guys have been a wealth of info regarding below-top-40 single versions! Since we don't have the book or database for those, we just have what people report or share here, and lately I've been updating my CDR collection to replace album versions with single versions (hence my splurge of recent posts lately!)- I really hadn't updated any versions in the last couple years - and with Ron G's help and others, I've discovered so many single versions I didn't know existed lately for these lower charters, (e.g. "Emotion" by Streisand, "Through the Fire" by Chaka, "Eenie Meenie" by Jeffrey Osborne, "Frankie" by Sister Sledge, "Jole Blon" by Gary US Bonds, "And She Was"/Talking Heads, "Somewhere" by Steisand - not surprising ... that intro is SOOO long. Anyway, thanks to everyone for their help! And if an occasional file shows up that's labeled "single version" and it's not (like this and "Love Pains"), it's worth going through to find all the great gems that do exist! |