Eric Burdon & The Animals-"Sky Pilot"
Printed From: Top 40 Music on CD
Category: Top 40 Music On Compact Disc
Forum Name: Chat Board
Forum Description: Chat away but please observe the chat board rules
URL: https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3854
Printed Date: 27 June 2025 at 2:39am
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 12.07 - https://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: Eric Burdon & The Animals-"Sky Pilot"
Posted By: jimct
Subject: Eric Burdon & The Animals-"Sky Pilot"
Date Posted: 09 July 2008 at 1:13pm
| I own two commercial 45s for this song. One says "Saturation Sound - plays mono or stereo", and my other copy doesn't, but both copies are, in fact, stereo. They are confirmed as MGM 13939, have listed times of (2:55), but actual times of (3:01). |
Replies:
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 09 July 2008 at 6:42pm
| Do all the versions, with run times of 2:58 or so, run faster than the 45, or just fade earlier? |
Posted By: BillCahill
Date Posted: 10 July 2008 at 6:44am
| Another question: I was told a while ago that there was a DJ 45 with parts 1 and 2 together. I've never seen one. Can anyone confirm? |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 10 July 2008 at 7:06pm
My promo copy has the 2:55 version on one side and the complete album version on the other.
|
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 10 July 2008 at 7:58pm
| Nice scans, Hykker! Do you know the run time for the side with the complete album version? |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 11 July 2008 at 6:37pm
Listed=7:27, actual=7:14 |
Todd Ireland wrote:Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 11 July 2008 at 8:22pm
| Thanks! I should've also asked if the DJ side with the 2:55 listed run time actually runs 3:01 like the commercial 45. |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 11 July 2008 at 8:28pm
|
Hi Hykker,
I have two questions for you: Does the "complete version" on your promo play in wide stereo or mono? Does the "complete version" have the remix like the 'part one' does (i.e. echoplex on "How high can you fly" lyric)? Andy |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 12 July 2008 at 5:22pm
Not sure I'd call it "wide" stereo, but it is stereo.
Yes. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 22 December 2012 at 11:34am
|
very odd....my commercial 45 issued as mgm 13939 states the
run time as 2:55 and also says like jim's 'saturation sound-plays stereo or mono' but clearly sounds mono to me.....the vinyl 45's actually run time is 3:02.....i have a stereo cdr version of part 1 from the varese cd 'on the radio volume 1' which runs 2:59..... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 23 December 2012 at 1:19pm
|
The Varese CD used a reasonably clean promo 45 as the source because the stereo single master could not be found. I believe they used the long version on the promo 45 as the source and simply faded it where they thought it ws supposed to fade. Probably because the long side was less worn than the short side.
i know this because I was part of the discussion on this CD, they were going to use a mono version as they had that tape. |
Posted By: Kerry Jackson
Date Posted: 23 December 2012 at 7:54pm
| My copy is identical to Hykker's with short and long versions in stereo with the designation "saturation sound". Wikipedia reports that "The US single, released in 1968, was the first to be pressed in stereo on MGM Records." I noticed in the database that some of he cd versions are an edit of the lp version in an unsuccessful attempt to recreate the 45 version. My promo short version is simply a fade of the long version, 3:01 in length. Does anyone know if the "Part 1" is indeed an edit of the lp version or a fade? Bill's comment that the Varese CD used a promo 45 needledrop because the stereo master couldn't be found is interesting. I wonder if this is another case of destroyed or lost stereo or multitrack master tapes. |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 24 December 2012 at 6:04am
I don't know if it was issued this way commercially, but my promo of the Cowsills' "In Need Of A Friend", MGM K13909 SS is in stereo, though other than the "SS" suffix on the catalog #, there's no other notation of this. |
Posted By: Gary Mack
Date Posted: 24 December 2012 at 8:33am
|
We played the long single version of Sky Pilot at
KRIZ/Phoenix by dubbing it to tape cartridge since it could easily be scratched. Then we learned that Eric Burdon was really unhappy with the 45 mix which, apparently, was done without his knowledge or permission. From then on we played the LP track. That's probably why the stereo single mix tape disappeared. Anyway, the full unedited stereo 45 can be re-created by editing the two together and adjusting the fade down/fade/up levels (finding a clean 45 is much more difficult!) I prefer that mix over the LP for the added compression and special EQ made it sound much more exciting. GM |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 05 August 2014 at 12:26pm
My Monarch-pressed stock copy of "In Need Of A Friend" is also stereo, and like your promo 45, the "SS" is the only label indication that it is. Unfortunately, its deadwax reveals a bit more: " <-- CSG -->". Ditto for the B-side, "Mister Flynn." The stereo "In Need Of A Friend" 45 debuted on the Hot 100 chart two and a half months before "Sky Pilot" did. |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 29 August 2014 at 5:21am
|
I have finally acquired a "Sky Pilot" long/short promo 45, which is 100%
similar looking as Steve's 2008 label scan, posted earlier in this thread. My copy is in fantastic condition. To me, the long version side is in perfect, wide stereo. I just can't believe how full and sensational it sounded with my headphones on, considering its length/small 45 grooves and all. The song has long been a personal fave of mine, and a CD dub of the LP version has been in my iPod's "high rotation" for years now. As such, I am extremely familiar with that version. Besides the appearances of the three early, psychedelic, reverb/echo sfx after Burdon's "how high can you *fly*", which is unique to the stock/promo 45 versions, I noticed another clear difference between the long version promo 45 and the LP version. The LP version fades after the fifth, near-identical repeat sing of the "you never reach the sky" lyric. But the long version on my promo 45 only has three repeats of that line, then totally fades out Burdon's vocal, and then adds about a :10 second, horn- bagpipe only music segment, until the very end of the fade. This ending can be clearly heard at the end, and is unique audio to the promo 45's long version/Part 2 ending of the stock 45. Steve, whenever time allows, could you please go back and re-listen to the ending of your long side "Sky Pilot" promo 45, then quickly compare it to the ending of the LP version? After doing so, I believe the two different long version endings will then jump right out at you. |
Posted By: smvceo
Date Posted: 13 September 2014 at 8:04am
| The long side of the promo 45 has a different fade than the LP version, as bagpipes are heard playing on the 45 that do not appear during the fade of the LP version. |