Paul Revere/Raiders-"Mr. Sun, Mr. Moon"
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Topic: Paul Revere/Raiders-"Mr. Sun, Mr. Moon"
Posted By: jimct
Subject: Paul Revere/Raiders-"Mr. Sun, Mr. Moon"
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 9:05pm
| My commercial 45, which is mono and confirmed as Columbia 44744, has a listed time of (2:29), but an actual time of (2:33). Pat, it would also seem that a database notation will need to be added here, as the two current database CDs that include this song feature longer run times, at (2:43) and (2:46). |
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Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 11 July 2008 at 5:36pm
| Looks like all versions on CD are the LP version. The 45 makes an edit at the end and runs MUCH slower pitch than the LP version. |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 08 October 2009 at 12:40pm
| The correct, mono 45 version of this song has just made its worldwide CD debut, on a new Rev-Ola (U.K.) import CD, titled "Hungry For Kicks: Singles & Choice Cuts 1965-1969" (CR REV 284). And although these other tracks are already available in their "45 version" on one or two database CDs, this collection also includes (and all on the same CD) the mono 45 versions for their hits "Let Me!", "Too Much Talk", "Peace Of Mind", "The Great Airplane Strike", as well as their just-missed-the-database 1968 hit "Cinderella Sunshine". FYI, a recent Collector's Choice catalog I recieved stated that their recent Jay & The Americans mono singles CD set was their #1 seller in the weeks after its initial release. Along with this new disc, I'm starting to sense a bit of a re-issue label mini-trend of late, opting to include the mono single mixes, instead of the stereo versions for the millionth time, and I for one hope it continues! Rhino, are you listening? One of your main re-issue rivals' artist mono comps are selling very well, and you're laying people off! I know they were bought by WB a while back, but I bet it's still not too late for Rhino to get their act together. And I'm rootin' for them. They will always have a special place in my heart, due to the many amazing 80's/90's CD comps still in my collection. |
Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 08 October 2009 at 3:09pm
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In a thread on the Hoffman board that actually contains some useful information, Ed Osborne announced that CCM will release Paul Revere & The Raiders: The Complete Columbia Singles in "either December '09 or January '10". It is to be a 3-CD set featuring "65 classic tracks in all their original hit singles glory, meaning those much sought-after mono mixes (where applicable)."
Due November 3 on Fantasy is Creedence Clearwater Revival's The Singles Collection, which will also feature the original mono singles mixes. (It has been suggested on the Hoffman board that the single mixes were simply fold-downs of the stereo mixes, but I'm not convinced of that.) This is to be a two CD plus one DVD set, so it might be a little pricey. |
Posted By: bwolfe
Date Posted: 08 October 2009 at 6:37pm
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Wow! Its been so long since I listened to the 45 of "Mr. Sun, Mr. Moon" that I totally forgot that it was pitched slower. I always remember the edit at the end.
There could be an entire thread about songs that were either pitched up or down. ("Baker Street" and "Abracadabra" were pitched up. Can't wait for this CCM collection. One question: What are the differences in the CCR singles? Are they that easy to discribe? Is it the fact that their mono the difference? ------------- the way it was heard on the radio |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 08 October 2009 at 6:52pm
| Jim, thanks for the tip. Just ordered a copy a few minutes ago. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 08 October 2009 at 9:48pm
Creedence is one of the RARE cases where all their mono singles actually are fold-downs of the stereo versions. It says this in the liner notes for one of the old Steve Hoffman-mastered CCR albums. It says the band spent a lot of time finding the "magic" mix, and didn't want to try to replicate it twice... that's why their early singles were mixed in very narrow stereo, so there wouldn't be a big difference between the mono and stereo versions. |
bwolfe wrote:Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 08 October 2009 at 9:50pm
Has it been confirmed that it will be mono? All I had heard was speculation. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 08 October 2009 at 9:58pm
According to Steve Hoffman in his liner notes for the CCR vinyl boxed set by Analogue Productions, they were. See the last page, the section titled "Mixed to Last": "The important thing to remember was that Fogerty only mixed these songs ONCE. This, he felt, was the "fairy dust mix," the one that had the soul. He didn't think he could get that again, so that one mix had to do for everything. The original Fantasy seven-inch 45rpm singles of every Creedence song are mono fold-downs from these mixes." http://www.pamelaharris.biz/images/print/CCRbooklet.pdf - http://www.pamelaharris.biz/images/print/CCRbooklet.pdf |
Posted By: BillCahill
Date Posted: 09 October 2009 at 3:45am
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The difference on Green River is discuessed on the link below.
Not many other real differences between the 45 and LP versions except the intro edit on "Down on the Corner" and the editing of post break up single "I Heard It Through the Grapevine". Hopefully the dreadful "Creedence Medley" never makes it to CD..it needs to be burned and buried in the same grave the "Dion Medley" from Laurie. http://www.top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1651 &KW=green+river - http://www.top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1651 &KW=green+river |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 09 October 2009 at 3:59am
Just wanted to verify that, indeed, the Paul Revere collection is in the works! My good friend Ed Osborne has been doing a fantastic job with the folks over at Collector's Choice (Ed's detailed liner notes alone are worth the price of admission). We all need to spread the word and help support these wonderful compilations. |