Black Crowes - Hard To Handle
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Topic: Black Crowes - Hard To Handle
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Subject: Black Crowes - Hard To Handle
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 7:45pm
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Two separate charts runs for this song, info from Billboard:
Def American 4-19668, debut on 10/27/1990, peaked at #45 on 12/15/1990, 15 weeks total on chart Def American 4-19245, debut on 6/22/1991, peaked at #26 on 8/17/1991, 14 weeks total on chart One or both of these is the drastic remix with horns, which really doesn't get any airplay nowadays. It didn't even get much airplay back then, if I remember correctly. I've always considered the LP version to be the "hit", but I'll ask the experts: Does anyone know what the story was with the remix? Were both singles released with the remix? Was one version considered a failure, so Def American released another? I know that "Jealous Again" was the first single from the album, HTH was the second, "She Talks To Angels" was the third, and HTH was the fourth, but I've never gotten a good explanation of the whole horns remix thing... ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 8:01pm
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i remember hearing the remix, or non-lp version, on the radio in new york on 95.5 wplj......i thought that mix was superior to the lp version....does anybody have the remix on a promo cd single?...jim??
------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 8:18pm
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Yes, 'edtop40', the promo CD is Def Americam PRO-CD-4896.
Track 1 is "album version", track 2 is labeled "remix" (both listed times 3:08). Has any COMMERCIAL release, in any format, contained the aforementioned remix? Andy |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 8:23pm
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don't know....good question....pat?... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 8:33pm
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Here you go, Ed:
Black Crowes-"Hard To Handle" (PRO-CD-4896) 1-Album Version (listed & actual time 3:08) 2-Remix (listed 3:08; actual 3:07) FYI, we happened to play the "Album Version" for this in 1991; we really weren't crazy about all the horns in the remix. To help refresh my memory, I pulled out our old 1991 station playlists. After "Hard To Handle" didn't really break through Top 40 in its initial release, Def American then released "She Talks To Angels" as the follow-up. We did add this song, on 4/19/91, and played it for five weeks. I remember that it didn't do all that well for us, and I see that it only peaked at #30 in Billboard. But, as is often the case, Def American thought they could now re-work "Hard To Handle" to Top 40, and this time meet with better success, based on their "She Talks To Angels" mini-breakthrough. As I recall, Def American always thought the Album Version was the stronger cut, but just to give Top 40 radio a fresh, second option, decided to include a "Remix", as Cut 2. We first added "Hard To Handle" on 6/21/91, played it for 10 weeks, and it peaked at #6 on our survey, on 8/9/91. Ron, I hope this information helped to answer your question here. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 8:43pm
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as usual, jim, the color commentary is indispensable,.....it's amazing how you can add information which you had the amazing vision to hold on to.....such info is greatly appreciated by one such top 40 freak!!! ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: TimNeely
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 9:04pm
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Someone who owns one or both of the cassette singles will have to chime in with more, but I do know about the 45 (7-inch) release.
The first version (19668) was not issued as a 7-inch single; the commercial release was a cassette only. The second version (7-19245) is labeled as "(Album Version)" on the label with a listed time of 3:08. The flip side was "Waitin' Guilty," which I assume was a non-LP B-side because of the lack of album credits on that side. |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 09 May 2008 at 5:27am
| Interesting! Such great expertise on this forum! Thanks, all! |
Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 10 May 2008 at 4:00pm
| Andy I have not seen the remix version of "Hard To Handle" show up anywhere on cd. |
Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 02 August 2010 at 2:58pm
| Bringing back an old thread, I had a someone ask if the horns version is available on cd, and I think the answer is still no. I notice the database makes no mention of the horn remix being on a promo CD to radio stations. I know I played it at G-105 Raleigh on the promo CD mentioned on this string. Should this info be added to the database about this song? |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 02 August 2010 at 3:13pm
| For what it's worth, TM Century issued the "Remix" on their CHR HitDisc in 1991. I wasn't in radio at the time, and I don't remember if the CHR stations in my area played it or not. I actually like the remix just as much as I like the album version and the Otis Redding original. |
Posted By: Loveland
Date Posted: 07 January 2020 at 6:47pm
I'm pretty sure that the 19245-4 single was issued first in 1990, while the 19668-4 single was (re)issued in 1991. |
crapfromthepast wrote:Posted By: ChicagoBill
Date Posted: 08 January 2020 at 8:44pm
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Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 10 January 2020 at 9:01pm
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In NY, when the song was a re-current, the only station
I heard the remix on was Z100. I liked it, but had no idea where to get it until i found the promo single in a used CD store. MM |
Posted By: ChicagoBill
Date Posted: 11 April 2021 at 6:34pm
For those interested, the Remix version with horns has appeared on the new release of 'Shake your money maker' by the Black Crowes, expanded edition. In fact there are 2 expanded editions. I guess it's a 30th anniversary thing. Is it 30 years already?? -Bill. |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 11 April 2021 at 7:49pm
Bill - I'd heard that the WEA labels numbered their 45s backwards so that the new releases would appear at the top of the lists when they were printed out in numerical order. If that's true, then the numbering was done specifically *for* record store people! :) ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: LunarLaugh
Date Posted: 13 April 2021 at 9:01am
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Horn version posted on YT here. Boy, that is... different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Um_27x2DVg ------------- https://thelunarlaugh.bandcamp.com/ - Listen to The Lunar Laugh! |
Posted By: ChicagoBill
Date Posted: 14 April 2021 at 10:23am
possible. I tried to get answers out of the WEA salesmen during the 80's, but they were as clueless as I. In 1989 I wrote to Ken Clee @ Stax-O-Wax who put out "The Directory of American 45 R.P.M. Records", and asked him for his explanation, he couldn't get an 'official' answer. If it was a marketing move to get to the top of a new release list, I would've thought that other major labels would have jumped on the wagon, but no. Even their 'Back to Back' re-issue series ran backwards. -Bill. |
Posted By: ChicagoBill
Date Posted: 14 April 2021 at 10:42am
from the LP version found on "Shake your money maker", but if you take a listen to the ORIGINAL version done by Otis Redding released posthumously on 'The Immortal Otis Redding', He has a very similar horn arrangement. This was released on a single in 1968 (BB-#51). It was released also by Patti Drew a few months later (BB-#93) and also has a similar horn arrangement (except hers adds trombones in the beginning) so I would assume that the 'Horn Remix' version is more faithfull to the original. -Bill. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 14 April 2021 at 1:23pm
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The "Remix" is my preferred version, FWIW. I love the added horns. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 14 April 2021 at 3:15pm
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Every version of this song is excellent (including Otis'
original, Patti's cover, the Black Crowes' album version and that cool remix). Funky catchy tune (ok now play it loud!). ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: ChicagoBill
Date Posted: 14 April 2021 at 4:31pm
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Do you think if we were a fly on the wall in the recording studio, it might have gone like this, George
Drakoulis (the Producer), "I know you guys are a great ROCK band and may be adverse to a horn arrangement, but the great Otis Redding had horns in his, so can we try one with the horns?" Also, to go back to one of the original question, I heard the 'Horn Remix' version on WLUP "The Loop". Sure, they were more a AOR/Classic Rock station at the time, not top 40, but that's where I heard it. Especially my friend, Bob Stroud would play it and the Otis Redding original on his "Rock 'N' Roll Roots" show at noon. -Bill. |