Chic-"Dance, Dance, Dance"
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Topic: Chic-"Dance, Dance, Dance"
Posted By: jimct
Subject: Chic-"Dance, Dance, Dance"
Date Posted: 27 April 2008 at 9:39am
Current database CDs that feature the "45 version" of this song have run times ranging from (3:35) to (3:43).
My 1955-06 Whitburn Top Pop Singles book correctly states that "this song was also released as Buddah 583 in 1977", during a short-lived label alliance between Buddah and Arista, and this information is certainly correct. However, both my label discography info and my personal evidence (I bought the Buddah 45 on 11-25-77, and then the Atlantic 45 3 days later, on 11-28-77) shows that this Buddah 45 was released at just about the EXACT same time as the Atlantic 3435 45, which is always documented to be the "definitive" hit release. Most times, but not always, when Billboard has such a note under a song's info, this "other" 45 release was not a hit in its own right, and normally preceded the issue of the "hit" release by at least a few months. (An obvious exception to this is the Troggs "Wild Thing", where both Atco & Fontana claimed ownership of the exact same recording, and many copies, on both labels, were sold in the U.S. in 1966. But in this case, different B-sides, "With A Girl Like You" on Atco and "I Want You" on Fontana, appeared, whereas "Sao Paulo" appears on the flip side of both the Atlantic and Buddah 45 releases.) Both the Buddah and Atlantic 45s are the same recording, but this upcoming fact may explain the longer-than-usual 45 timing range. My Atlantic 45 has both a listed & actual time of (3:42), whereas my Buddah 45 has a listed time of (3:39) and an actual time of (3:37). The fade on my Buddah 45 truncates abruptly, and earlier than on my Atlantic 45. To me, this fact, and not a speed issue in this case, accounts for the :05 run time difference between the two 45s. So, with both (3:37) and (3:42) "45 version" masters obviously out there, this probably explains why CD run times vary. Not a huge deal here, but, by way of explanation, I just wanted to offer up this point for the many other "sticklers" here on the Board.
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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 12 July 2010 at 4:20pm
my commercial 45 has the channels flipped compared to the cdr version i have.....problem is, i don't know which cd i dubbed it from.....be wary of the 45 versions on cd having flipped channels.....
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Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 12 July 2010 at 7:17pm
The most honest and accurate representation of the 45
length on CD is "The Golden Age Of Black Music 1977-1988"
on Atlantic. The CD was produced back in the 80s, when the
company didn't tweak and compress everything silly. The CD
was produced by Sylvia Rhone.
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Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 13 July 2010 at 5:40am
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I wasn't aware that the Buddah issue of this was released more-or-less simultaneously with the more common Atlantic single...could've sworn it pre-dated it by a good 6 months or so. Not sure if I still have it, but I had a (really cue burnt) Buddah promo of this which I thought was date-stamped from the spring of '77. Or maybe I'm thinking of something else.
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Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 13 July 2010 at 9:43am
The Buddah 45 single of this was also out of phase and generally not as good sounding as the later Atlantic issue. The Atlantic is better mastered and pressed (my copy is a Atlantic Studios, DK indicating a Dennis King mastering). It's a Specialty Records pressing from Olyphant, PA.
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