Scandal’s "The Warrior" question
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Topic: Scandal’s "The Warrior" question
Posted By: Brian W.
Subject: Scandal’s "The Warrior" question
Date Posted: 04 July 2005 at 4:39am
| Whitburn lists this as 3:35, but on CD it seems to run anywhere from 3:51 to 3:59. Can anyone verify the true running time of the vinyl 45? |
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Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 04 July 2005 at 9:52am
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My white label dj 45 states a running time of 3:35 and actually runs 3:36. It is an edit of the LP version. ------------- Top 40 Music On Compact Disc Moderator |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 04 July 2005 at 12:11pm
| Good catch, Brian. My book doesn't have any indication of "LP Version" next to the song. I have the 45 at my parents' place, and it seems to me that commercial copies also used the edit. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 04 July 2005 at 2:03pm
| Thanks, guys. Grr, another single edit to try to track down. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 04 July 2005 at 4:53pm
| There's only two edits---both during the guitar solo. It's easy to make with some editing software. |
Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 05 July 2005 at 4:43am
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I have this track on two CDs, one of which is Here Come The Hits on Polytel CBS Direct from 1985. "The Warrier" runs about 3:36 on this CD, so I would assume it's the single edit. The CD also features a couple of other single edits. On Time-Life's Sounds Of The Eighties 1984 it runs about 3:56. ------------- dc1 |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 05 July 2005 at 2:38pm
| David, ma man! Thanks, buddy! [Now it's just a matter of finding it... that's a Canadian-only comp!] |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 05 July 2005 at 2:44pm
| Aww, I got excited for a second, 'cause I thought, "Wait, I have that CD." But mine is "BRING ON the Hits," a 1987 Canadian CD from CBS. I have a couple late '80s Candadian comps... I really must go through them and see if there's anything unique there. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 22 December 2005 at 9:25pm
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Okay, I finally got a copy of the Canadian "Bring on the Hits" from Ebay, and it does indeed have what appears to be the 45 version of "The Warrior," running 3:33.
It also appears it may have some unique 45 versions, which I'll detail in the "45 versions in import CDs" thread, so go there. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 22 December 2005 at 11:11pm
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ditto...............btw..............paul made me an excellent computer copy of "the warrior".......... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 23 December 2005 at 8:34am
Care to share the details? :) ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
aaronk wrote:Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 23 December 2005 at 9:03am
| I'll send an mp3 of the guitar solo, since off the top of my head, I can't recall the exact edits. |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 02 August 2015 at 2:48pm
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I found a cheap copy of the full-length Warrior album on CD (Columbia CK 39173, 1984), so I revisited "The Warrior".
I have the LP version on quite a few CDs, and all seem to use the same analog transfer as the full-length Warrior. Someone at Columbia did it right the first time, so there was no need to do another analog transfer years down the road (at least on the CDs that I have). The LP version runs 3:59 on Warrior. There are plenty of CDs that all use the same analog transfer as Warrior but all run a second or two shorter than Warrior by shortening the very end of the fade:
I have the 45 edit on exactly one CD from a tape source (PolyGram Canada's Here Come The Hits from 1985, which is pretty $$$$). I also have the 45 edit on swaitek's promo 50-CD The A List Disc 23 (1994), where it's taken from vinyl and uses noise reduction - avoid. Here are instructions for creating the 45 edit from the LP version. I used Warrior as my source; the others will work just fine. Segment 1 Extends from 0:00 to 2:29.5 of LP version and 45 edit Extends 16 beats into the guitar solo Ends on a downbeat Remove the 16 beats from 2:29.5 to 2:37.2 of the LP version. Segment 2 Begins on a downbeat 4 beats long Extends from 2:29.5 to 2:31.4 of the 45 edit Extends from 2:37.2 to 2:39.1 of the LP version Ends on a downbeat Remove the 16 beats from 2:39.1 to 2:46.8 of the LP version. Segment 3 Begins on a downbeat Extends from 2:31.4 to 3:35.1 of the 45 edit Extends from 2:46.8 to 3:50.6 of the LP version Fade Begins on a downbeat 16 beats long Extends from 3:27.4 to 3:35.1 of the 45 edit Extends from 3:42.8 to 3:50.6 of the LP version Your mixdown will run 3:35.1, with edits at 2:29.5 and 2:31.4. If you use Forever Rock Vol. 3 as the source, subtract one second from all of the above times. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: Ron S
Date Posted: 16 July 2018 at 6:49pm
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My 45 version came out better than the actual 45 heard on the radio. The
lyrics and in the instrumental parts run more smoothly. |