Soul II Soul-"Keep On Movin’"
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Topic: Soul II Soul-"Keep On Movin’"
Posted By: jimct
Subject: Soul II Soul-"Keep On Movin’"
Date Posted: 12 November 2007 at 3:23am
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My promo CD single (PRCD2725, but this # ONLY appears in the "CD deadwax".) This CD is brown in color, features no listed times, and contains:
1-(Nellee Hopper's 7") (actual 3:37) 2-(Teddy Riley's Rubba Dub) (actual 6:00) 3-(Big Beat A cappella) (actual 3:32) 4-(Club Mix) (Featuring Caron Wheeler) (actual 5:46) There are currently a couple of versions of this song in the database where I thought this new information may be of some help. |
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 11 October 2008 at 9:21am
| Your information certainly is helpful, Jim, and I thought I'd also add that the actual commercial 45 time of Soul II Soul's "Keep on Movin'" is 3:35, not 3:38 as printed on the record label. The 45 label also specifically states: (Nellee Hooper's 7"). I have confirmed the version description is spelled correctly, which is slightly different than what Jim reported on Track 1 of his promo CD. Jim, when you have an opportunity, could you please double-check and see if your copy actually says (Nellee Hooper's 7") and not (Nellee Hopper's 7")? |
Posted By: 80smusicfreak
Date Posted: 11 October 2008 at 12:49pm
Um, if so, then that begs the following: Why are you questioning the spelling of only the last name in jimct's original post??? :-) |
Todd Ireland wrote:Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 11 October 2008 at 3:16pm
| The commercial 45 states (Nellee Hooper's 7") on the record label. (I've gone back and corrected the typo in my original post.) So again, my question deals with whether Track 1 on the promo CD single states "Hooper" or "Hopper". |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 11 October 2008 at 6:46pm
| Todd, I have re-checked my promo CD single, and track 1 IS, in fact, spelled "Hopper", not "Hooper" - my original post spelling was correct. However, on my commercial CD single for the song (info for which I did not include in my original post), on Cut 3, the only one referring to "Nellee" on that disc, it does spell the name as "Hooper" on there. So, since it appears that even Soul II Soul's record company (Virgin) didn't know what the correct spelling was back in 1989, what are our chances of getting to the bottom of this issue in '08, gentlemen? :) |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 11 October 2008 at 7:23pm
| Probably not very high, Jim! Thank you for the clarification. |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 12 October 2008 at 7:36am
His name is Nellee Hooper. He's a pretty popular producer/remixer. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 12 October 2008 at 9:17am
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my commercial cassingle issued as virgin 99205 states on the label the version as (nellee hooper's 7") and listed run time of 3:38 but actually runs 3:37....it is identical to track #1 from the usa promo cd single that both jim and i have listed below
1-(Nellee Hopper's 7") (actual 3:37) 2-(Teddy Riley's Rubba Dub) (actual 6:00) 3-(Big Beat A cappella) (actual 3:32) 4-(Club Mix) (Featuring Caron Wheeler) (actual 5:46) i do not have the commercial 45 to compare that to these findings....and i also can confirm the differing spellings of hooper/hopper on the promo cd single versus the cassingle..... 
 ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: abagon
Date Posted: 13 October 2008 at 12:24am
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I did the typo (Neellee Hooper's 7") when I informed Todd by an e-mail. I sincerely apologize.
The correct description on the 45 record label is (Nellee Hooper's 7") 
--abagon |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 27 February 2011 at 3:45pm
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Unless I'm missing something, it appears that the 45
version is an early fade of the LP version. I didn't heard any difference between the mixes. Based on the timing from PolyTel Canada's Hits Plus Hits, a 24-beat sinusoidal fade from 3:21-3:36 seems to match the 45 pretty well. Note that the true 45 runs at 93.4 BPM, or about 0.3% faster than the album version at 93.1 BPM. |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 17 December 2023 at 8:38pm
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Twelve years later...
Never mind: the 45 is indeed a different mix than the LP version. Fading the LP version early won't work. The promo CD single of the "Nellee Hooper's 7 Inch" includes an odd glitch around nine seconds in. There's a drumbeat missing, and the syllable "in" is pasted over the missing beat, so it sounds a little like a stutter. The glitch only affects the attack of one drumbeat, and if you're beat-matching, you wouldn't even notice it. The same analog transfer (including the glitch) is used on:
Thanks to Eric M for discovering the glitch and finding a CD that lacks it. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: mjb50
Date Posted: 18 December 2023 at 12:14am
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There's also a fraction of a second of sound missing 1 second later, at the beginning of the word "stop". Can't really hear that one but it's evident in a wave editor.
It seems the UK 45 has the glitch: ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXp_ilJo3KI - ref: YouTube ) So does the US 45 have the glitch too? |
Posted By: EternalStatic
Date Posted: 18 December 2023 at 9:02am
| Thanks for giving props, Ron! You know I love to help. I think it was Bwci Bo that actually noticed the glitch first, though. I only humbly but efficiently located a version without it, haha. |
Posted By: AutumnAarilyn
Date Posted: 18 December 2023 at 3:20pm
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Volume IV The Classic Singles 88-93 might fit the bill as
well. I can't unhear that glitch now. "Move me no mountain" Hackney mix is the killer cut but it's on a single and a few compilations. |
Posted By: Plastic Steel
Date Posted: 02 January 2024 at 2:26pm
I'm not sure about the 45, but I know the cassette single definitely has the glitch. |
Posted By: davidlg1971
Date Posted: 22 February 2024 at 1:14pm
Yes, I just ripped a copy of the US 12", which contains the same glitch. It seems during mastering one bass drum sample wasn't triggered. I simply copied the initial bass drum sample from the beginning of the song, and pasted it over the glitch point. And voila - it sounds normal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTRvMywdm6M - Keep On Movin 7" fix - U-Tube If that wasn't a creative choice, perhaps someone momentarily muted the bass drum track during playback (unlikely), or the sampler experienced a glitch during mastering (more likely). In that same era I had a Korg M1 keyboard, which you could use to program and record instruments, drums, etc. Periodically, though rarely, during playback samples would get skipped and not show up - despite being programmed correctly. I'd reboot the machine or free up memory, and they would reappear. Supposition: Likely an accident, but one that was left in intentionally. After all, everyone in the studio, label and so on would have to have noticed that. |