supertramp "give a little bit"
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Topic: supertramp "give a little bit"
Posted By: edtop40
Subject: supertramp "give a little bit"
Date Posted: 01 June 2007 at 2:54pm
my commercial 45 issued as A&M 1938-s states on the label a run time of 4:07 but it actually runs 3:20....the run out groove has "am 12256-s comm t4" etched in it......this running time differs from the two run times claimed in the db (dj-3:32, commercial-4:07).....is it possible that there are 2 different commercial 45 versions??.....does anyone have this commercial 45 to verify it's run time, stated time and etching??....the song on my 45 sounds slightly different than the one from the retrospectacle cd.....anyone???
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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 01 June 2007 at 8:19pm
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i just found a second commercial 45 in my pile of doubles and it also runs 3:20 and has a slightly different sound to it.....the run out groove states..."am 12257-s p1".....anyone know if the true 45 version is available on cd??? ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 02 June 2007 at 5:31am
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Ed:
Glad to have you back on the board, buddy! You say your "Give a Little Bit" commercial 45 has a slightly different sound than what has appeared on CD. Does your 45 sound like it could be a remix? Or is it maybe just EQ-ed differently than the CD appearances? I was wondering if you could elaborate a little bit more on the differences you're hearing. |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 02 June 2007 at 10:53am
| Ed, my commercial 45 has a listed time of (4:07), and an actual time of (4:06). Deadwax is "AM12256-S P2 COMM". My promo 45 has this same listed (4:07), actual (4:06) length on one side, but instead of "Edited Version", which I've seen on dozens of other 70's A&M promo 45 short versions, this promo short version says "Special DJ Version", with a listed time of (3:32), but an actual time of (3:30). As I recall, A&M would on occasion issue a "Broadcast EQ'D" promo 45, trying to have it sound hotter on the radio, as Todd hinted. Deadwax for this promo short v is "AM 12256-S DJ S3". This appears to be a unique mix to either of your (3:20) versions, Ed. I currently have no (3:20) version, either on a commercial or promo 45, so this situation is becoming more complicated, not less so. |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 02 June 2007 at 11:44am
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All I know is that I need a dub (vinyl or CD) of the version that was THE HIT RADIO VERSION which I can't find anywhere.
Most notable, other than the 2 edits, was a lack of reverb on Roger Hodgson's lead vocal. It was a much better mix. Anyone have that version? Andy |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 02 June 2007 at 5:32pm
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jim....have you a/b'ed your 4:07 commercial 45 versus any of the cd versions....if you haven't could you send me an mp3 of the 45 so i could do it?... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 03 June 2007 at 4:11am
| Due to both Ed and Andy's inquiries, I just revisited this song. Within about an hour yesterday, I had answered questions about songs from the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s, and was getting a little punchy. As a result, I gave a wrong timing. My promo 45 has an actual time of (3:32), but an actual time of (3:20), not (3:30) as I had previously reported. I apologize for this. I have shot out both my stock and promo 45s to Ed, for his further analysis. |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 03 June 2007 at 12:14pm
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Hi people,
Jim shot me out a dub of his promo 45 and it IS the version I remember hearing on the radio with the superior mix and it has 3 edits, not 2 as I previously, inaccurately stated. Andy |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 03 June 2007 at 3:45pm
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thank you jim....i just reviewed the long stock 45 mp3 you sent me and i'm glad to report that it is identical to the cd version i have from retrospectacle and it runs 4:07.....now if i can only find a copy of the 4:07 45 for myself.....i will revie the other 45 in a second ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 06 June 2007 at 4:07pm
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i just picked up the commercial 45 from my local used record store here on long island (mr. cheapo's), highly recomended, i might add, and it indeed is identical to the full 4:07 cd version.....the run out groove matches the one on jim's 45 as well.....this puts another 45 single version to bed.....jim....thanks for your help on this one...... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 06 June 2007 at 5:55pm
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Side note;
Mr Cheapos! so glad they are still there. They were my fav record haunt for many years. Say Hi to Stu! -MM |