CSN - Suite: Judy Blue Eyes
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Topic: CSN - Suite: Judy Blue Eyes
Posted By: eric_a
Subject: CSN - Suite: Judy Blue Eyes
Date Posted: 30 May 2007 at 1:58pm
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I just finished cutting my CD version to match the stereo 45 edit. This edit doesn't appear to exist on CD, so I figured some of you might want to try this yourself. Some of the cuts involve weird overlaps, so I'll try to describe this as clearly as possible.
Start at 0:00 on the LP, and: 1 - At (0:43) fade out on the first two beats of "hard", while fading in "hard" at (1:18). 2 - At "hard", cut from (2:01) to (2:46). 3 - Cut from (3:55) to (4:39). (This sounds messy on the 45, with a double-drum hit. I can't replicate the messiness; this sounds too clean.) 4 - Cut from the downbeat at (4:54) to "Chestnut brown canary" at (5:10). 5 - Fade out the strum on the downbeat at (5:52), while fading in the guitar licks at (6:21). Your finished edit list should have edits at 0:43, 1:26, 2:35, 2:50, and 3:33, ending at 4:35. |
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 31 May 2007 at 10:32am
| TM Century has their own edit on GoldDisc, but I checked it once with the actual 45, and I can confirm that it is close, but not quite right. |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 31 May 2007 at 11:59am
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And some on this board have told me that the actual 45 was mono. I'm assuming a stereo edit was not issued.
Anyone who can confirm (Jim? Ed? Pat?)? ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 31 May 2007 at 12:36pm
| Doug, both my 1969 commercial and promo 45s had the single edit only in mono. All stereo 45 versions I know of have been created "custom edits", which can be achieved as Eric references above. |
Posted By: TomDiehl1
Date Posted: 31 May 2007 at 12:52pm
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What appears on the reissue 45? I seem to remember that on my reissue 45, this side is a stereo edit while the flip side, Marrakesh Express is mono. Unfortunately I can't double check right now as I'm in the process of packing everything up and won't get to my 45s until i get the new boxes i ordered to house my 45s. ------------- Live in stereo. |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 31 May 2007 at 1:13pm
| Nice catch, Tom. I also happen to have that "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes/Marrakesh Express" reprint 45. As you correctly recall, while both sides state "CSG Processed Stereo", "Suite:...." is, in fact, stereo, while "Marrakesh..." actually appears in mono. I haven't listened all the way through the "Suite:...." reprint 45 yet, to see if it sounds right to me, but it does state a time of (4:35). |
Posted By: eric_a
Date Posted: 04 June 2007 at 6:30pm
I may have egg on my face -- I don't quite recall where my "stereo 45" source file came from, perhaps Skyline. I assumed it was that Atlantic reissue, but I can't verify that. If anyone wants to send me dubs of the mono and/or reissue 45s, I'm happy to double-check my findings for the board's edification. |
jimct wrote:Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 05 June 2007 at 8:00am
| Eric, I will shoot you out both my mono 45 and my stereo reissue 45 for your analysis, but probably not until the weekend. Sorry - it's the best I can do, sir. |
Posted By: john halloran
Date Posted: 05 June 2007 at 3:50pm
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Jim,
Is your reissue the older gold and black label, or the newer silver Atlantic oldies label? Reason I ask is I own a silver label reissue that is mono that I picked up maybe 15 years ago. I'm wondering if your copy may be a newer, revised edition by Atlantic (and may still be available some place)? |
Posted By: TomDiehl1
Date Posted: 05 June 2007 at 5:18pm
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My reissue of it with the one side in stereo is silver label version. ------------- Live in stereo. |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 05 June 2007 at 6:56pm
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Posted By: Steve Carras
Date Posted: 29 January 2013 at 6:33pm
Hi, [forgot that I had been registered!longest absence..] There is alos that open part on the LP with "one two three four" whsipered AND the LP part of the third part of the first section..i.e. in short "tearing yourself away/from me now.." is sung differently than on the 45.[and though completely offtopic those wishing me a happy birthday,which would be August 12, please note that was a typo on my part.[]:) I have both the LP and CSG singles of that song. ------------- You know you're really older when you think that younger singer Jesse McCartney's related in anyway to former Beatle Paul McCartney. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 29 January 2013 at 6:51pm
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I'm not sure which vinyl copy Eric used for creating his version, but there are no crossfades on the original CSG mono stock single. Also, I don't hear any vocal differences between the LP and 45 at the spot Steve references above. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 29 January 2013 at 8:34pm
My copy of the 45 was SCG Compatible Stereo. The 45 is on iTunes. ------------- |
Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 30 January 2013 at 4:36am
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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 30 January 2013 at 6:04am
It is indeed. It wasn't when I wrote my original note in 2007. :) ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 30 January 2013 at 9:14am
Indeed there was, I have a copy. Double A-side, stereo both sides. Some promos of "Marrakesh Express" were also stereo (though mine is mono). Interestingly, the stereo promos had the whispered gibberish that precedes the song on the album, but the mono doesn't. Atlantic issued quite a few singles in both configurations. I have both mono and stereo promos of a couple Dusty Springfield songs ("Son Of A Preacher Man" and "A Brand New Me"). I also have stereo promos of Arthur Brown's "Fire" and Led Zep's "Whole Lotta Love"...I'm pretty sure both stock pressings were mono. The Led Zep single was the long version b/w "Livin' Lovin' Maid". Not sure what criteria they used as to who got what...all of mine came from the same small-market AM station. |
Posted By: Steve Carras
Date Posted: 07 December 2014 at 11:00pm
Incidentally, just got from SoulSeek the ACTUAL LP take and the "tearing yourself away"..bridge is INDEED The EXACT same as the single, not the later "take" I cited....that ACTUAL LP version/take which IS the same vocal EXACTLY as the CGS 4:35 single is from the original 1969\ album which I have..:_ ------------- You know you're really older when you think that younger singer Jesse McCartney's related in anyway to former Beatle Paul McCartney. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 08 December 2014 at 2:13pm
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The Digital 45 will be for sale on Neil Young's PonoMusic
store when it FINALLY goes active (whenever that will be), so hopefully we will get a lossless version of the mono single then. I did alert them that some of the Rhino Digital 45s on Qobuz were lossy, and they thanked me for the info and said they would try to check them. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 13 December 2014 at 7:26pm
| Will PonoMusic have some of the other mono mixes too? |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 14 December 2014 at 3:10am
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Go look...
www.ponomusic.com |